Hi, my eyesight isn't improving at all. It's been about a month and a half now. I feel like the Bates method isn't even real. Can I see real documentary proof of people achieving a complete fix? About a week ago I finished the book - The Bates method for better eyesight without glasses. It was informative and I understand almost everything in the book except some method it was trying to teach in the central fixation chapter. Everything makes sense but it doesn't work for me. I've seen no improvement. I also tried the palming method, I did see the flash of clear vision for a second but my vision is still very bad. I've been doing shifting everyday as the book "Relearning to See" said. The bates method is more like a "complementary and alternative medicine" and those does not always work. Why doesn't the rich that have glasses hire a bates teacher to cure their defective eyesights?

When I do shifting, why does everything looks more blurry when I look around somewhere else? But then after a while, the blur fades away back to the normal bad vision I have.

How long does it take to cure one's eyes? Like .....let's say the worst, like 20/400, how long does it take to cure that?

I need someone to answer my questions completely because I'm starting to think the Bates Method is fake now. The reviews in Amazon on the book relearning to see sounds so fake also. Do you see how perfectly the reviews are written??

If necessary for you guys, I'm 16 years old. Yes I read that the younger you are the faster the improvement but I have seen no improvement at all! NONE! I don't have time to do the other methods because I have lots of homework from school. I'm in a bunch of ap and honor classes and I do sports and come home in 6pm. I put some effort to make time to be able to read the better eyesight book and right now I'm TRYING to read the book relearning to see. All I've read is that the 3 habits are shifting, central, and blink. I email Mary I. Oliver(bates teacher) and she said just to do shifting as habit. I did and there is no improvement.

The time when I got defective sight, myopia was 2 years ago. I wore glasses for 3 months that time. Then I typed in in google, "how do you fix your eyesight naturally?" And then Bates method popped out and I read about it. It says not to wear glasses. My eyesight that time was 20/70. But then when I "stopped wearing glasses", in school I started squinting everyday and now my vision is very very bad. I blame this to the Bates method but not all of it since it says it can fix eyesight to 20/20. But if it can't fix my eyesight then I blame the whole 100% thing to the bates method. Right now I started wearing glasses for only 2 weeks. I'm trying to freaking cure my eyesight with the Bates method right now but it doesn't work! FRUSTRATION! I don't even know if it works or not. Also, the bates method was known to "IMPROVE" your eyesight. I want a cure to 20/20, not an improvement of 0.0000000001 after 10 years. I've read some postings here and some dude said it takes 35 years to cure yo eyesight and some other person said it takes like 15 years. YOU CRAZY?! I will be old by then. 2 years ago I only did palming for 3 months then I quit. Then after a year later I tried palming again and I quit because it doesn't work. Then like a month and a half ago I got some info from Mary I. Oliver saying to just shift as a habit and I did and it does not work. I've been shifting for a month and a half.

If this question cannot be completely answered, then it means the Bates Method if fake!!!!!! If I cannot get real documentary proof, then it means the Bates method if fake!!!!! If I am told to do the research on my own, no. Because I've already did. I've read the better eyesight book and read some stuffs off of google as I have said. You guys are the ones saying ya'll "cured" your visions. So I want answers from the people who have "cured" their visions.
And yes I know that today is my first join so don't think I'm new to the Bates method. Also, I feel like I'm the only guy in the world knows about the Bates method because no one around me or anywhere knows about it. I can't get it to work. I feel like I'm some special guy who's eyes just don't heal. If you guys heal my special eyes, I will explode with happiness of my life. I never heard of anyone talked about the bates method around me in REAL LIFE.

Okay I'm new here first of all, I have been doing the bates method for a month now. I havn't had any success because when I say I am doing the bates method, I really mean I have been reading these forums, blogposts from people who actually have improved their eyesight and of course bates book. On another note I'm sixteen like yourself, play sports and I'm in nearly all honour classes which means a lot of work.

So in relation to your post, it says a lot about you. First of all it could be argued it is in the wrong place but that doesn't really matter, your new to the forum. From your post you clearly give up on a lot of things quick, proof of that is throughout your entire post, again your clearly very busy but you just got to keep pushing onwards.

If you read the forums you will notice lots of proof, people such as nancy, David, clarknight and many others have had success with the bates method. So if one person can do it, therefore it is possible. I would disregard any reviews of certain improve your vision program's that you pay for because those reviews are a bit too good to be true and are most likely not real.

In terms of time, read the forums and people's blogposts, it is very very rare that someone's eyesight will be fixed overnight, it does take years sometimes. You also mentioned that since you started your eyes got worse, well I think that is entirely your fault. It sounds like you read, take off your glasses and your eyesight will get better without fully understanding what to do. So therefore you squinted and made your eyes worse.

Now I am still new so I think you will get a better response from some other members but that's my opinion anyway. As for my advice, read the forums as well as blogposts, bates stuff is old, it helps to have people who are on this forum to share their insight. Although the most important piece of advice I could give is that rebuilding your vision in 80% pycology and 20% how.

Hope this can be of some help and please forgive me for the poor structure and spelling, I'm in a bit of a rush

If you are shifting correctly (attention moving, not just your gaze mechanically), what you are looking directly at will be clearer than everything else -- this is central fixation, a fundamental principle of good vision. Fading to your normal blur I'm thinking is re-establishing your bad habit of seeing everything with equal clarity (or blur), a habit which glasses encourage, by the way -- read David's Method for a better understanding of this.

While I understand your frustration, accusing and attacking those who could help you will not make us rush to your aid. One of the fundamental principles of the Bates Method is relaxation, and your angry approach will be getting in your way, in my opinion. This more about graciously receiving the clear images than about chasing them down and tackling them.

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Nancy
2012: 20/45 on average, no glasses except for night driving
2001: 2/200, -10 hard contacts with -1.75 cylinder
Vision & dreams blog: http://dreamersight.wordpress.com/
Vision & dreams website: http://dreamersight.com/

Read this. Although I suppose even it doesn't really meet the standard you are looking for, since she doesn't show her records (and she died in 2009, so contacting her is out of the question.) I too would like to see people who report significant lasting improvement post some medical documentation online, so that anyone could contact their optometrist to find out whether it was legit.


Unfortunate. It is my impression that for people who are more than mildly nearsighted, school is basically incompatible with the Bates method.


At 20/70, you could have likely avoided squinting by getting a seat closer to the front. Did you try this?

Iwant2seedamnit-it is not my fault that i squinted. it's because I can't see without glasses and the bates method said NOT to wear glasses. and nancy, yes what ever you just said and yeah that's correct. I did do exactly like that. and yes i understand what your saying because what your saying is what the better eyesight book said too. but it things still looks blurry after the shifting but then the blur fades. why does that happen??? also i don't see anyone showing me real documentary proofs that the bates method is real. Also, no one told me why it doesn't work for me. and nancy, why does it say in 2000 u had 20/200 and now in 2012 you have 20/35...... it took you over ten years and ur eyesight isn't fixed?! no wonder no one uses the bates method. they probably know it works but does not want to waste 10 years of their life. after 10 years we'll be all old.

Rockdude, Nancy's eyesight in 2000 was 2/200, that's like 20/2000 which to be honest is a huge improvement to her vision, something she should be proud of and something others should use as motivation. Easy mistake, I think I speak for everyone on this forum when I say we understand.

In regards to your progress, I suggest you take a deeper look at bates method, especially this forum and David's blog posts, he seems on the ball with the functional aspect of the eye. Just keep telling yourself "I can" over and over and remember nothing is impossible and nothing worthwhile comes easy in life.

can you please stop changing up my words???!!! i said that nancy's eyesight was 20/200 in 2000 and in 2012 it turned to 20/35!!!! that's 10 years later and her eyesight is still not perfect dammit! I've already quit reading relearning to see. it's way too boring and I have school work. everytime i read i think about that i should be doing my school work. this freaking book talks so much about eye balls and glasses that i thought i was reading a glasses book and not a bates method book. I will not believe the word "i can" from you bates people unless i get a REAL DOCUMENTARY PROOF that it works which i have said for the past past past! every day i have infinity school work and i have to study freaking 4 subjects with big fat text books. i've also already read the better eyesight book so i don't need to read another bates book. in amazon the reviews on the better eyesight book says, " OH MY GOD i healed my eyesight." riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhhttttttt. i so believe that. i bought the book and read it. i tried the methods for like 1 and a half month and i see no improvement. You know what else? I just found this bates book calld art of seeing in amazon for 30$ and it's only 147 pages. I bought it and it's being shipped and i guess i can read that since it's only 147 pages. And you know what else? one of the reviews said,"easy! i cured my eyesight in 1 day only!" riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhht. I'll see about that. After i'm done reading and apply the method for like a "day", let's see if i will have 20/20 vision. but for real i'll give it atleast a month because i know that review is fake. but the whole bates method COULD be fake too. i'll just have to see since i can't get the real proof after i read this book and try it more.

Nancy herself reports that her eyesight was 2/200, which is far, far worse than 20/200. Moreover, 20/35 is very mild nearsightedness. I'm sure that you would be very happy to get there.

Daniel and Iwant2cdammit, thanks for sticking up for me. I'm losing patience with rockdude myself, as he seems just to want to rant and accuse and be the victim, rather than take the time to fully listen to all the wise advice that's coming his way. Yes, I know I am still not 20/20, and am uncomfortable about the possibility of driving at night again soon which will mean I probably need weak glasses to see well enough. But it is SO SO much better than it used to be! And my anxiety continues to decrease, and my sense of being present is getting better all the time. So I'm happy, not complaining at all, and looking forward to further improvement. I had a great long flash on the chart just last night. Rockdude, if you don't mind my saying so, the biggest impediment to your progress is yourself.

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Nancy
2012: 20/45 on average, no glasses except for night driving
2001: 2/200, -10 hard contacts with -1.75 cylinder
Vision & dreams blog: http://dreamersight.wordpress.com/
Vision & dreams website: http://dreamersight.com/

Where are the rare bates books? I've read from some bates teacher that they said the bates book today does not have the real information of the bates method because the bates teachers are scared to post the real info because they are scare of being killed by the eye doctors. So where are the real books?! Let me buy them!! I can't get the method to work man! Let me buy the real book of info and method!

First post but I would like to oppose what you're saying. I'm 18 and had myopia for about 4-5 years. I stumbled across this website literally 3 - 4 days ago. When I read all about central fixation it sounded very convincing. Since the first day I read about it I have taken every opportunity to try look at smaller and smaller details further and further away. Almost been doing this about 3 - 4 hours a day but my vision is rapidly improving every day. I don't know what my prescription for myopia is unfortunately but I'd say somewhere around -3-4D on L and -2-2.5D or so on right(my right eye is much stronger). Just thought I'd vouch for the process of central fixation it seems to be really helping me, what seems to be a dull day is now much brighter to me all because of improved vision. Thanks.

Ok now that I've read about dioptres and the relation to distance I think I'm much less than -4 on my left eye as apparently people with -4 can feel totally dependent on glasses, I hardly have wore my glasses I got at like 14, I guess that's probably why my myopia hasn't progressed as fast as some peoples'. Still though, my right eye is far superior to my left and what I've tried to do is cover my right eye whenever possible and apply central fixation as I believe my right eye has also been the one which is improving more so I need to fix that, don't want to become cross eyed.

rockdude,you are correct that school is a major factor in causing myopia. More so though is the use of computers.
Myopia is rampant in any part of the developed world,due to computer use.They are truly a vision blessing,and a curse.
You do however need an education,so you are caught between a rock,and a hard place.
The military forces of the world are having a hard time finding visually qualified pilot candidates.When they find them,due to the intense study required in flight school many are washed out due to myopia before they finish their training.Thus far no pilot flight school has found vision training to reverse myopia to be of any benefit.
Your best bet is to only use a computer when necessary for school,and not at all for recreation.
Try to do as many distance viewing things when not studying,or in school.
You may have to put off vision improvement until your education is finished,if you can not do without your glasses.

This of course depends on one's priorities. Someone who is really motivated should consider all options.