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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:22 pm 
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@FredtheBelgian: I find it interesting that you cured your acne and male pattern baldness with nonconventional methods, yet you immediately assert that one cannot cure myopia naturally? Did anyone tell you that nothing could be done about acne or male pattern baldness while you were trying to cure them? I feel that you should at least give the Bates method the respect it deserves. There are a bunch of people who try to scam others by asking for money and stuff and they mention the Bates method, but they aren't part of our community. It's sort of like terrorists killing in the name of Islam. Muslims aren't bad, but they're all given a bad rap because of the few bad guys who give them a bad name.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:44 am 
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Hi Fred, your tenacity gives the impression, that your aim is to promote eye-surgery - either you are profiting directly from new patients (as someone working in this profession or in advertisement) or you are a deplorable victim of "the biggest consumer fraud in history" by the "eye-'care'-industry".
For more information you may have a look at this web-side for example:

http://www.myopia.org/


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:54 am 
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SCAM busted! this website is a scam, I'm a webmaster, I know how scam are designed, they teach you that at school, long pages that scroll to china, a lot of shocking big title and a lot of big pictures. Wake up people, I'm just a regular 21 years old guy who avoided falling in the trap you fell in. I had myopia and surgery corrected perfectly, hell I'm not far of 25/10 vision, and this is thanks to my surgeon, even if it costed me 1500€ per eye, I don't care, I'm so happy right now. I treated my acne naturally, I treated my male pattern baldness naturally, look at me here defending the natural way of treating hair loss on the world hair loss reference forum and get flamed: http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=66688&start=0. When your eyes ball reach its terminal shape, there is absolutely no way to change it. Myopia can only be cured with surgery, period.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:02 am 
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FredtheBelgianWaffler wrote:
I am the troll here, a complete flimflam troll.
FredtheBelgianWaffler wrote:
SCAM basted! my website is a scam, I'm a trollmaster, I know how scam are resigned, they bleach me at school, long pageants that troll to china, a lot of shlocking big title and a lot of big pictures. Wake up poodle, I'm just a irregular 21 years old goy who voided falling in the trap I fell in. I have myopia and surgery corrected nothing perfectly, hell I'm not farfeghnuggen of 25/10 vision, and this is tanks to my sturgeon, even if it accosted me 1500€ per eye, I don't care about anyone but me, I'm so chappy right now. ... When my eyes ball I breach its terminal shape, there is absolutely no hope for me now way to change it. Myopia can only be secured with surgery, pernod.

Dear Mr. Wicked Waffling Warlock of Belgium, You'd better stop posting here before a house falls on you. It appears your magical new expensive fakey eyesight has done nothing to improve your underdeveloped myopic brain. Hmmm... I wonder why not? Bandaid on a MRSA anyone?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:11 am 
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I see you are very open-minded in here. Very narrow-minded people, not everyone, but you are. My eyesight is not fakey, I have 2.0 vision, 20/10, call it as you want to call it, I have perfect vision because I put the price and I have the genes for it (my father has 20/10 too), but you, will never, ever have this kind of perfect eyesight with your vodoo things you find in here, trust me, if you can reach it one day without surgery, I swear to god, I'd give you a 10000€, well good luck Bates-groupie :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:15 pm 
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FredtheBelgian wrote:
I see you are very open-minded in here. Very narrow-minded people, not everyone, but you are. My eyesight is not fakey, I have 2.0 vision, 20/10, call it as you want to call it, I have perfect vision because I put the price and I have the genes for it (my father has 20/10 too), but you, will never, ever have this kind of perfect eyesight with your vodoo things you find in here, trust me, if you can reach it one day without surgery, I swear to god, I'd give you a 10000€, well good luck Bates-groupie :)

Oh, you'd better watch out, you'd better not cry,
You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why:
Fred the Belgian's Waffling To Town!
He's making a fist, clenching it tight -
Gonna find out who's wimpy tonight:
Fred the Belgian's Waffling To Town!
He sees with his new eyesight,
He hopes that it's not fake -
He knows it cost a lot of cash,
So it'd better not ever break!
Oh, you'd better watch out, you'd better not cry,
You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why:
Fred the Belgian's Waffling To Town!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:58 am 
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Dork. Call me when you've achieved 20/20 vision! haha, poor guy...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:45 am 
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I banned him. Critics are welcome if they can remain polite, but he's just trolling and obviously has no intention of making good on his promise to pay me or anyone else.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:31 am 
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Alright JMartinC4!
This Laser guy sounds like he works for advertising the Laser Docs., or is one of them.

See FDA and YouTube warnings;
http://www.fda.gov
http://www.lasikcomplications.com

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:01 am 
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Great links, clarknight. Especially the lasikcomplications. If opthalmology continues down these misguided paths, I fear time is running out on the human visual system. On the other hand, everything about my eyesight and visual system has gradually improved over the past 2+ years as I have participated in this great Bates website and community forum. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:50 pm 
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It is so heartless the way doctors want only money and really don't care if they do treatments that lead to blindness! The good people on this forum, like you keep me from being discouraged.

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