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Peace in mind - hammer - 09-25-2010
This is a thread of showing how to get peace in mind in order to get clear sight.
Check out the link below:
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At first you may wonder where you shall look.
Then imagine the ocean wider than your periphery.
Now you know where to look, the map is settled.
Then look at the waves, details, focus on detail and follow the waves moving very very slowly.
Then notice the birds, follow bird with your central vision, very slowly.
Feel the warmth.
Close your eyes, remember feeling of peace in mind,
Then understand it.
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Then look out, feel awareness.
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Then wake up, feel wakefullness.
...
Then see clearly !
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 10-11-2010
Relax your mind, Pink Floyd-Marooned:
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Fall asleep easier, Fireplace on a rainy day HD 1280 x 720:
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Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 10-24-2010
Beautiful song from Celtic Women:
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Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 01-28-2011
Beautiful relaxing black metal:
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Re: Peace in mind - Deliverance - 01-28-2011
hammer Wrote:Beautiful relaxing black metal:
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Summoning is awesome, 'Stronghold' and 'Minas Morgul' are mine favorites albums from these guys.
Great song.
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 01-29-2011
Peace in mind, trance song, close eyes, breath and feel:
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Lyrics to Susana Feat. Omnia & The Blizzard - Closer :
A sea of sound fields all so near
I know my way inside is clear
Strong connection, balance
The answers wave me from the stars
A fleeing burdens so profound
Are carried by this waves of sound
Touch the agony in me
Then bring me here the melody
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
(Grazie a JynnDJ per questo testo)
A sea of sound fields all so near
I know my way inside is clear
Strong connection, balance
The answers wave me from the stars
A fleeing burdens so profound
Are carried by this waves of sound
Touch the agony in me
Then bring me here the melody
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
When Iâm in here, I feel Iâm closer
Nothing left but peace inside my heart
All I ever was, all Iâll ever be
When youâre near, I feel Iâm closer
Re: Peace in mind - Tomi - 01-31-2011
Speaking about piece in mind,
'' Close your eyes, remember feeling of peace in mind,
Then understand it.
...
Then look out, feel awareness.
...
Then wake up, feel wakefullness.
...
Then see clearly ! ''
I think mindfulness practice tries to convey something very similar to your first post. Have you heard of it? It is gaining popularity in western modern science. If not, I recommend talks by Dr. Kabat-Zinn and Dr. Richard Davidson. It is something about the way they talk and the topic they talk about that just makes sense to me.
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 01-31-2011
[quote="T"]
I think mindfulness practice tries to convey something very similar to your first post. Have you heard of it? It is gaining popularity in western modern science. [quote]
T,
I have approached my first post via physics that sort of describes biology.
And also I took some quotes from David Lynch I guess and just combined it with Bates.
There was a man called David Bohm that was a genious,
and I kind of agree with his ideas actually (a wholeness which you get access to via some higher awareness).
If you are interested then you can watch for instance Basil Hiley easy talks about it,
because it is INTERESTING physics concerning the mind also:
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You can watch some longer old interview also with the genious himself too, also interesting, but you need to be interested in order not to fall asleep,
though interesting to hear how sharp and fast mind he obviously had (I felt almost asleep compared to it
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Thanks for your tips, I now know how to meditate !
Re: Peace in mind - Tomi - 02-01-2011
I watched the first two videos you posted. I'm not really sure what he was talking about. My understanding of quantom theory is more or less, what I read in the news. While I find quantom theory very fascinating as I do 42, I have yet to venture there. Mind symplifying what it is about?
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 02-01-2011
T Wrote:I watched the first two videos you posted. I'm not really sure what he was talking about. My understanding of quantom theory is more or less, what I read in the news. While I find quantom theory very fascinating as I do 42, I have yet to venture there. Mind symplifying what it is about?
It is about the vaccuum of quantum physics.
The vaccuum is highly connected to spirituality !
Now, there is a "fork" in the road here, because scientists need to find the Higgs boson particle (maybe you have heard of the Large Hydron Collider). The LHC aims to detect/find this Higgs particle and it is a final piece of the puzzle before you can actually tell what is right or wrong here. So it is quite exciting currently.
As an example of the higher awareness I have one rather easy video that explains how Buddha thought about it (but I absolutely don't want to force upon you what is right or wrong here, my intention is that it is a good start to understand what the state might be about, might be heaven also, or the sun and the moon, I don't know, but I will do palming ;D ) :
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Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 02-01-2011
T,
My view and its simple,
Another easy way to understand the wholeness (higher awareness) is just by analysing a FFT butterfly, which is the foundation (building block) of the very clever algorithms of vision, memory in brain (Karl Pribram) and the universe (David Bohm) (all working in frequency domain), all known, what is on the other side we don't know though, but it could be the true order (matrix) or god, each point in frequency domain is connected to each point in time domain. So this is the higher awareness illustrated in its most simplest form (2 points, us on one side and god on the other side ??? ):
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This FFT building block is holographic as each point on one side is connected to all points on the other side, thus each point contains the whole ! If you divide it in two pieces it will still contain the whole, but fuzzier though, this is a holographic characteristic !
So in my view this is why palming works !
Re: Peace in mind - Tomi - 02-01-2011
Hammer, quantum theory is above my reach. I have to read everything about it at least twice to even know what the subject is. It's hard for me to form an opinion on this matter, when someone says A is black, another one says it's red and the third yells it's neither. I'm telling you this, so you'll know you're talking to a layman on the subject.
You seem to have a general grasp on QT, are you a physicist?In the last video the yogi says vacuum is everything. Are vacuum, wholeness and higher awareness synonims? Also where does this 'other side' fit in here and how do you know there even is one?
I know a bit about the so-called god particle. They are hoping to find it, so they can see why particles have mass and with this confirm QT. Is that about right? I don't know how its pending discovery does or doesn't affect your interpretation of QT. Basil Hiley in the video say it's over-hyped, but I don't know what to make of it.
Tomi
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 02-02-2011
T Wrote:Hammer, quantum theory is above my reach. I have to read everything about it at least twice to even know what the subject is. It's hard for me to form an opinion on this matter, when someone says A is black, another one says it's red and the third yells it's neither. I'm telling you this, so you'll know you're talking to a layman on the subject.
In the last video the yogi says vacuum is everything. Are vacuum, wholeness and higher awareness synonims? YESAlso where does this 'other side' fit in here and how do you know there even is one? The implicate order enfolds and the explicit order unfolds, so that "other" side might for instance be enfolded and then it might be unfolded in a social aspect or just in a personal aspect. If you want to get some more examples from Bohm interview and understand more I was reading: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/bohm.htm">http://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/bohm.htm</a><!-- m -->
So processes might be unfolded out of some higher common process. Thus lower awareness might be unfolded out of some higher common awareness. Or generally you can connect to this wholeness and gain certain aspects, because it is reflected back on you. if you do good things you get probably good things back for instance. If you help yourself you get help back and so on. If you pay attention to your someone dead, you might get some answer. If you listen in your dreams you might get guidance and so on. There is no limit here, got it.
I know a bit about the so-called god particle. They are hoping to find it, so they can see why particles have mass and with this confirm QT. Is that about right? YES, the Higgs field is connected to the vacuum and it is a question if the Higgs field depends on this god particle or if the Higgs field can exist anyway, at least this is my interpretation. I don't know how its pending discovery does or doesn't affect your interpretation of QT. Basil Hiley in the video say it's over-hyped, but I don't know what to make of it. Yes, I actually also have this feeling. You know, we all have this knowledge inside of us because we are part of the universe and even our mind is built up with these particles so we all know. The scientists have the ability to translate into mathematic equations and formulas this what everyone actually know inside of them. I guess some meditation can help out here.
Tomi
T,
See my answers above.
Re: Peace in mind - hammer - 02-03-2011
There is an infinite field of knowledge in the "vaccuum" that you can unfold into your mind, using meditation, dreams, because you are an infinite being, hey trust her because she is a doctor in physics and research consultant for NASA:
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Re: Peace in mind - Tomi - 02-07-2011
After watching the videos you posted a couple of times and reading about it, I have a bit better idea of what you're saying. I can accept the fact the copenhagen (or whichever) interpretation of quantum theory isn't the right answer. I've seen there are a number more interpretations, each with its strong points. If I had a vote for which theory is the most correct, I'd definately go for a deterministic one, because it makes more sense. But, this is QT, it's not supposed to make sense.
About that other stuff. Infinite field of knowledge, 'meaning is everything', group minds and what not. It might make for an interesting debate, but it's not something I'd be actually willing to believe. I mean when it comes to QT anything goes I guess, but for me, this is just too out there, if you know what I mean.
Nevertheless, I am curious, about your view on palming and why it works.