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Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - Farsighted - 10-10-2007 Hi Just wondering if anyone new here that has tried this to reduce hyperopia? e.g wearing a low minus full-time? Thanks. Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - otis - 10-10-2007 Dear Farsighted, Subject: The effect of a minus on the eye's refractive STATE. The method certainly works in SCIENCE. And, if you wish to change your refractive STATE, say from +1 diopter to 0 diopters -- I believe you could be effective in doing it. The only issue is the motivation and understanding to do it. Best, Otis Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - Farsighted - 10-11-2007 Otis, what do you mean by 'understanding'? I definitely have the motivation and I'm sure it would be difficult seeing through minus lenses at first but I guess I would get used to it quickly if I were to wear them full time? I am say, +3 (very strong) in each eye, what would be a reasonable prescription to start on? Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - otis - 10-11-2007 Dear "Farsighted, Quote:Otis, what do you mean by 'understanding'? Otis> I mean the I look at the facts available. In my judgement, the the eye will respond to a -1 diopter lens by changing (very slowly) in a negative direction. But it up to you to "understand" it that way. I can only SUGGEST what I would do. It is up to you to decide with YOU wish to do. Quote:I definitely have the motivation and I'm sure it would be difficult seeing through minus lenses at first Otis> Maybe not so difficult. But being persistent would be difficult. It MUST make sense to you -- to do it. Quote:but I guess I would get used to it quickly if I were to wear them full time? Otis> I don't know your age. If under 20 years, it would not be too difficult, since your accommodation could "cover" that additional -1 diopter. Quote:I am say, +3 (very strong) in each eye, what would be a reasonable prescription to start on? Otis> PLEASE do not say "PRESCRIPTION". The minus lens as you intend to use it -- is not for an "error" or any other purpose other than your own curiosity. Otis> You have the responsibility to make that kind of judgment yourself. Best, Otis Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - Farsighted - 10-12-2007 Should I go with -2/-3 to speed things up or would it be too strong to try and see out of? I am over 20 y.o. so how long do you think it would take for my eyes to start becoming more shortsighted/less farsighted? Thanks. Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - otis - 10-12-2007 Dear Farsighted, We talked about "understanding" before. Whey you ask the question, "what would happen if I placed a -3 diopter lens on the eye". And "would the refractive STATE change in the direction of the applied -3 diopter lens. I answer the question with proof -- scientific proof in this case. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.geocities.com/otisbrown17268/FundEye.html">http://www.geocities.com/otisbrown17268/FundEye.html</a><!-- m --> Thus, if you eyes are similar to these eyes, then you should get a similar result. But I would say, at a much slower rate. Quote:Should I go with -2/-3 to speed things up or would it be too strong to try and see out of? Given that your range of accommodation is about 6 diopters, a -2 to -3 diopter would be too strong. Just get a low-cost -1 diopter from Zennioptical.com. Remember, I am an engineer -- and never provide MEDICAL advice. The suggestion that this would be possible comes from the scientific experiment stated above. Quote:I am over 20 y.o. so how long do you think it would take for my eyes to start becoming more shortsighted/less farsighted? Otis> I have no idea. So you may want to drop your project at this time. But if you still wish to continue, then start with a -1 diopter (spherical, both eye) -- AS AN EXPERIMENT. Just click here: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php">http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php</a><!-- m --> Your P.D., or pupiliary distance will be about 63 mm for your age. If you wish, you can measure this youself. The basic price is $8, with about $5 shipping. Thus you can try them out at a low cost. But this is always your experiment under your control. Anything stronger that -1 diopters will most likely give you a headache. Best, Otis Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - Farsighted - 10-29-2007 Otis, I find your posts a little difficult to understand as they are so technical. Just wondering has anyone else on this forum ever tried or have an opinion/knowledge of wearing minus glasses to improve farsightedness? Thanks. Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - apavel - 10-29-2007 many tried, many failed. Works for some people though. Even then, the improvement is usually very minor. Plus the idea of wearing a lens to make your eyesight worse never really appealed to me. This is also very counterintuitive with respect to the Bates method. Paul Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - Farsighted - 10-30-2007 Thanks Paul. I am not trying to make my eyesight worse but to reduce my farsightedness as I don't like the look of the lenses whether thinned down or not. Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - apavel - 10-30-2007 you should give the Bates method a try. Paul Re: Minus lenses improve farsightedness? - otis - 10-30-2007 Dear Farsighted, Subject: Methods to get your eyes to "move negative". (i.e., less "hyperopia"). Sorry that you judge my review "too technical". But you asked for an opinion. I think you now judge that any use of the minus is not "correct" for you -- and that sure if fine with me. I would suggest NOT wearing your plus as much as possible. I would also suggest using the Bates methods recommended by David and Paul. I personally think that you hyperopia can be "responsive" to the Bates methods. Good luck, Otis Quote:Otis, I find your posts a little difficult to understand as they are so technical. Just wondering has anyone else on this forum ever tried or have an opinion/knowledge of wearing minus glasses to improve farsightedness? |