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The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - otis - 02-27-2008 Dear Friends, I believe that we should work to REPEAT the successful results of this one study. It took me some time to find this Bates report. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://central-fixation.com/batesmed/my">http://central-fixation.com/batesmed/my</a><!-- m --> ... ention.htm If these (older) kids had done the measurements themselves (with a calibrated Focometer) they would have BELIEVED the results. Would the readers if imagination-blindness support this kind of study? Would you like to be in a college program -- that would attempt to repeat these successful results? Commentary? Otis Re: The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - otis - 02-27-2008 Here is the 1913 link: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.central-fixation.com/batesmed/myopiaprevention.htm">http://www.central-fixation.com/batesme ... ention.htm</a><!-- m --> Otis Re: The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - Urban - 02-27-2008 I'd be interested, but there would have to be a lot of organization and fighting on Bates' behalf for this to happen. Re: The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - otis - 02-28-2008 Dear Urban, I have gone through a massive number of reports and "studies". With the exception of the 1913 Bates study -- NONE of them aimed at the education and success of the person himself. ??? His was the FIRST, and as nearly as I can tell, the LAST attempt at prevention. I do not know what you think of Bates-prevention. But this "attitude" that can never support at least PEVENTION is a true failure for BOTH science, and the "powers that be" at the National Eye Institute. We are all victims of the terrible defend-the-practice at all cost, and the hell with the individual. Maybe you enjoy being treated that way. I don't. Second-opinion best, Otis Re: The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - sassisailor - 02-29-2008 Otis, I would be very excited to participate and even help organize (if you want help) a study of this kind. I have been thinking about something like this for about a month now and am very excited to get some scientific evidence supporting the Bates Method published. Although I am an Electrical Engineer, my dissertation research is a combination of Neuroscience and Engineering and focused on vision. Once I obtain my doctorate in December I had planned on trying to secure some funding to start a study of the Bates Method. I was thinking of looking into the SBIR program, specifically from NSF or NIH. What do you think? With a large sample size and a well thought out test procedure we could obtain a large enough sample size and convincing progress to have some publishable material that the scientific community would not be able to ignore. Once this initial progress was made it seems only natural that larger studies could be performed. Once my own vision improves more I would even be willing to go to the State of Wyoming to see about doing some programs in the public school district here in my state. I believe we need a concentrated, singular effort to decisively continue what the Bates' started. I believe the more people who want to help, the better! Sassy Re: The 1913 study -- repeat with Focometer - otis - 02-29-2008 Dear Sassy, One of the subject that must be discussed vis-a-vis Bates -- is the degree of "empowerment" the person will accept. With due respect -- most people's minds are "all over the map". Until we can organize a group of older students who can truly "commit" to organized prevention -- the issue will remain as it existed in 1913. The truth is that very few people (at 20/60) have ANY INTEREST in ANY PREVENTIVE WORK. Unless they have a very-personal reason (I must clear to qualify as a pilot) you will indeed have a motivational problem. It is obviously my judgment that the person himself must be the "leader". You would use medical people to MONITOR the study -- but NEVER to control it. But we can "work" that issue in due course. Best, Otis |