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Introduce yourself here!
#1
To help get discussions going, here's a thread for you to introduce yourself!

What do you hope to gain here? How did you find out about the Bates method?


As for me, I've run this site for four or five years now. Several years ago I clicked on a spammer's ad in a newsgroup about some vision improvement method or special glasses (they were probably pinhole glasses). The website said "This is NOT the age-old Bates method, which was disproven long ago," which led me to join a discussion group on vision improvement.

Dave
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"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith
#2
I heard about the Bates method after researching ways to improve my eyesight. Something told me that it didn't make sense that a healthy nineteen year old who had perfect vision just a few years earlier started to see worse and that the only solution was glasses. It seemed to me that just like many other performance deficiencies in our body could be improved by exercise and eating right and that's how i stumbled on the Bates Method.

I probably own every natural vision kit out there :-) But my favorite resource is the "Relearning to See" book by Thomas R. Quackenbush, I practically live by it.

I used to need glasses to drive but have given them up long ago, it's still difficult to read street signs but I'm getting better.

The biggest problem for me is being consistent with doing excercises. I know they work, it's just doing them everyday that becomes a pain in the butt. I'm lazy i know :-(
#3
Dave K Wrote:The website said "This is NOT the age-old Bates method, which was disproven long ago," which led me to join a discussion group on vision improvement.

:o
#4
Dave K Wrote:What do you hope to gain here? How did you find out about the Bates method?

More or less, I guess, I'm looking more for some form of encouragement than anything...
And actually, I learned from this site [starting a year and a half ago maybe?]
while searching through google for various of my interests - among them, simply getting rid of glasses without resorting to contacts or laser eye surgery or anything. And because of my participation in sports.
As well, for simplicity. 
#5
eukreign Wrote:The biggest problem for me is being consistent with doing excercises. I know they work, it's just doing them everyday that becomes a pain in the butt. I'm lazy i know :-(

ditto for me!!!
I'm pretty bad with things if I don't seem to have a purpose for them...
And given, my dad is the only one who seems to really understand (out of people I know in person) and he's blind, so he can't really help. :/
I can do a lot on my own, and have been doing better than before, but... [too much impatience]
#6
Hi, I'm Cat.

I read an awful lot as my part of my job, and my eyes were getting very blurry.  After a long day, it had gotten to the point that I couldn't tell if that person across the gymnasium was my friend or not, and I thought "My god, I have to do something."

I found Relearning to See by Mr Quackenbush two days later, entirely by accident, and thought I'd give it a try.

I'm posting on the forum because sometimes it helps to have people to talk to, to keep me focussed and troubleshoot problems.

I've been doing the method for two and a half weeks.  I'd had some very good vision moments since then, and a couple of really nasty ones. 

So far, it seems to be working well.
#7
Hi,

I'm near-sighted, have glasses since I was eight. I heared about Bates' method a long time ago, but never had the will power to exercise daily. Three days ago I decided to make a serious attempt, and since then I'm doing eye exercises twice a day. I hope to meet here people that are trying too, hopefully hear some succes stories to keep me going...

Sorry for my bad English, it's not my mother tounge.
#8
lemielke Wrote:And given, my dad is the only one who seems to really understand (out of people I know in person) and he's blind, so he can't really help. :/

That's funny you say that. There's a great book by Jacques Lusseyran called "And there was light." It's an autobiography of a guy involved as a leader in the French Resistance, but really it's about being blind, and how wonderful his blindness became. It unlocked his psychic abilities, although I don't think he ever used the word psychic once, or any other word like that. He just described what he experienced, and the mental state it required,  and it turns out to be good advice for anyone suffering from vision problems.

Dave
Site Administrator

"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith
#9
Mengyina Wrote:Hi,

I'm near-sighted, have glasses since I was eight. I heared about Bates' method a long time ago, but never had the will power to exercise daily. Three days ago I decided to make a serious attempt, and since then I'm doing eye exercises twice a day. I hope to meet here people that are trying too, hopefully hear some succes stories to keep me going...

Sorry for my bad English, it's not my mother tounge.

Welcome Mengyina,

The most important thing is to learn to keep your eyes comfortable and rested throughout the day, never using them in a way that produces strain or tiredness. When you do exercises, you should be learning something from them each and every time about how you are using your eyes in a strained way. Because it isn't the exercises that help (what  exercises are you doing?); they're just a learning tool, and count as a short amount of practice. What really matters is -establishing relaxed vision in the way you do things.

Your English is fine!

Dave
Site Administrator

"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith
#10
Hello everyone,

I'm near-sighted, have astigmatism and started using glasses when I was 7 years old. I don't really have any knowledge about this method to be honest(I just found this site when googling the net...) but I intend to aquire some, hopefully. I have noticed how tired my eyes get after studying or sitting infront of the computer, eveything gets blurry after short time sometimes...I really need to learn how to get my eyes relaxed somehow...

My little sister(11 years old) has just recently started to get weaker eyesight and maybe she could benefit from the Bates method as well.

???
#11
Hi kitkat,

When your eyes get tired after any particular task, remember that your eyes just receive light, and there's no reason that your eyes have to get so tired as compared to a task you enjoy doing. Any strain you feel is dictated mentally in an attempt to force the eyes to do something that they aren't meant to do - such as trying to see a large area without moving the eyes, or otherwise "pushing" the eyes to see, when they are perfectly capable of doing so without interference.

Dave
Site Administrator

"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith
#12
Hi Dave

I am just wondering, how do you see now? After all these years, what lens do you need to see perfect?

Christian
#13
Hello,

I am a 27 year old guy from florida. I am a high myope and was recently diagnosed as having occular hypertension (high tesnsion in eyes which can damage the optic nerve). So currently I am taking some eye drops to keep my eye pressures under control. I want to cure my condition and eliminate this dependancy on eye drops. I have most of the books on the Bates method and am currently reading those. I also do some eye exercises in the morning - palming, long swing, sunning. Hope I can get cured of this. Also if there are any bates teachers in Florida, please drop me a line.

- Jerry.
#14
Christian Wrote:Hi Dave

I am just wondering, how do you see now? After all these years, what lens do you need to see perfect?

Christian

Hi Christian,

I don't wear glasses or contacts - a few years ago when I started, I was several months into trying to improve my vision without much success and decided to go without any correction altogether around mid-2001, which was tough at first but it was the right decision of course.  At this point I can read anywhere from 20/20 to 20/30 on my eye chart. Sometimes better than 20/20, sometimes worse than 20/30. So my vision isn't (usually) perfect, and I'm still working on it. But I'm happy with it so far, as it's much better than reading 20/200 like I did when I started.  Smile

That aside, the way I see it, it can be misleading to measure improvement by what power of lense allows you to see perfectly. Different prescriptions can easily be obtained by going to multiple eye doctors and not informing any of them what your current prescription is. The results might vary in a wide range, with the astigmatism numbers especially all over the place, not much better than a broken clock that's right twice a day. I get the sense that this is more the case - and Robert Lichtman, a NY Bates teacher,  said something along these lines on his own forum recently - with a person who go without glasses more so than a person who wears glasses constantly, as if the glasses cause the eyes to become locked into a poor state and lose their dynamic behavior.

Just the act of putting glasses on, even a reduced prescription, can cause a person to fall back into his old strained habits of seeing and see worse again. Same thing with the set of trial lenses the optometrist uses on you during the exam.

Also, someone who wears glasses may have sharp vision but tends to have poor vision in other areas, including poor peripheral awareness, tiired or achy eyes, little or no perception of the halos Bates wrote about, little or no perception of the swing, etc., all symptoms of strain. So I personally wouldn't refer to such a person as seeing perfectly with glasses, but maybe that's just my own semantics.  Smile

Dave
Site Administrator

"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith
#15
floridaguy Wrote:Hello,

I am a 27 year old guy from florida. I am a high myope and was recently diagnosed as having occular hypertension (high tesnsion in eyes which can damage the optic nerve). So currently I am taking some eye drops to keep my eye pressures under control. I want to cure my condition and eliminate this dependancy on eye drops. I have most of the books on the Bates method and am currently reading those. I also do some eye exercises in the morning - palming, long swing, sunning. Hope I can get cured of this. Also if there are any bates teachers in Florida, please drop me a line.

- Jerry.

Hi Jerry,

Glad to have you! You might also check out the "Find a Bates Teacher" forum here to try to locate one in Florida.

What you're doing sounds good. But I always recommend to make sure you're doing it as part of a learning process, learning how you're straining and what helps to relieve it - rather than x minutes of daily drills that you do while thinking about the anxieties of the day, which won't do much good. So, just a suggestion.

Dave
Site Administrator

"Half of our funny, heathen lives, we are bent double to gather things we have tossed away." - George Meredith

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