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#1
Well for 11/2 years I reduced my prescription by 1 1/2 diopeters, did the 'vision for life' method and used +2 reading glasses.
It worked and that is very awesome (-6 to -4.5) - and thank you Otis. I would have loved to continuem had I not contracted a serious fungus infection in my right eye. :'( Thankfully the eye was saved, and I'm counting my blessings, but I am left with a scar over the pupil. Now the scar is superficial, but it leaves my vision blurry (or it's more like there's a water mark on the print). Where I used to be wonderfully nearsighted, I no longer can boast . It seems like the near vision was affected most.

My 1st question is if anyone knows if any of the exercises could help diminish it ?

Through this time I had stopped all exercises. I only wore a contact in my left eye and all that wonderful work of getting to a -4.5 is now gone. I am for sure that the extra strain of using the left eye to see, was the downfall. In fact I believe it is even worse than -6 now. :'(

I have just started to get back into 'vision for life' because I know that i can get the vision getting better again. -here we go up the mountain again.. I can't wait to be able to wear a contact in my right eye again so that things will be
more balanced. My right eye has not had any prescription for 3 months. I don't really use it unless I am reading which isn't often these days.. I will be very curious to know whether the vision (albeit the scar) has improved . I know that the
muscles are extremely tight when looking to the extreme left. My right eye has no problem with this . I surmise it has less astigmatism for sure. I guess only time will tell when I will go for a prescription.. thanks
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#2
Dear Its-me,

I am please you used the plus and saw results. Smile

Otis
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#3
Thats a tough one, as far as I can recall, I don't recall anything in Bates' writings about healing of a corneal scar. I'm rather curious about how this will proceed. Talk with your doctors about this one, it may be a thing that just takes time to heal by itself, but at this point if it really is corneal hazing I would try and contact a specialist. There are techniques and medicines to counter hazing of the cornea, but I don't know enough about them to give you any advice.

Best of luck.
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#4
Thank you Otis - it's nice to hear from you again. When I was working, I used the +2 glasses all the time while
on the computer, and the neatest thing was that my eyes never got tired like they used to. And then when I
would take them off to go on a break or lunch I could actually see better in the distance ! Talk about immediate
gratification Smile

As for my scar. :-\ Thanks Urban for your reply. My cornea doctor is supposed to be one of the best in my area and
he told me that the scar will not go away on it's own.. He doesn't think any kind of surgery, like laser would help.
He seems to be very careful as which I am VERY grateful (thank you God) . As far as I know the only thing he wants to try is using cortisone drops to see if that will shrink the scar, but there are no guarantees. Of course it's also hard to know
when to start using them, as there can't be any fungus spores in the cornea. Unfortunately there is no way
to tell and as some of you may not know, Cortisone actually spreads/grows fungus !

I have been working alternatively and been going to a ladywho does specialized kinesiology. She has helped me a lot with the healing and movement of the eye. To dateI have been doing figure 8's which increase electricity, and nutritionally have been taking a lot of protein, minerals, and eye vitamins, and of course much prayer..

I was wondering if either of you could advise me on this though. Since I have not had a prescription on my right
eye for 3 months and haven't done much reading has it been bad for my eye because it hasn't been focusing.
Does this make the eye stronger or lazier ? I mean of course I can see, but obviously my left eye has taken
over the task of seeing far.. I'm not sure how much focusing my right eye is actually doing.. ? I don't want
my sight in my right eye to get worse through inactivity, so if I should be doing something like maybe more
reading, I would do that. Any thoughts on this ? I hope I make sense here. Also may I add that currently
I am doing only palming and the eye circles (up, down to the sides). Thank you so much ;D
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#5
dear itsme,

I would try wearing glasses. Ask an optometrist to prescribe a pair of glasses that just lets you see 20/30 (6/9). This is reduced enough to relax the eyes and allow for positive change. In this way you can start using your hazy eye again. Contacts have many disadvantages when improving the eyesight.

Bates did write about curing certain types of scarring, I don't know if yours is included. What he did to help is what he did for everyone - prescribe rest. Read about palming and swinging in the 'method of the month' forum section and try some different techniques that are suggested. Do what is most relaxing for you and that brings the best results.

good luck!
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#6
Dear Itsme,

Subject: Scar induced by contacts.

I do not know of people who wear glasses -- getting a scar. ???

Tragically, you can get this from the contacts. Maybe not
in your case, but you never know.

I would suggest not wearing your contacts for some time. Smile

Otis
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#7
Hi Otis. Of course, had I not had contacts, I would never have gotten an infection, but the scar came from the edema, not the contacts. I was treated initially with antibacterial drops but because I strictly had a fungus infection, it got worse over mere days. Meanwhile, while waiting for results for the culture to come back (takes forever) I was given cortisone drops. These are given so that edema does not happen, and thus preventing scarring. Unfortunately, cortisone spreads/grows fungus and so it worked against me, and spread my local fungus infection throughout my whole eye. I lost my eyesight almost completely, and bad edema happened. This is why I have a scar over the pupil. But.. I am definitely counting my blessings.. my eye was saved (a combo of antifungal medication eye drops, drinking 1 bottle of Silver a day, Silver eye drops, kinesiology, nutritional supplements and prayer), and the scar is just superficial now - I'm still very hopeful ! Wink
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#8
OK I'm on the Zenni OPtical website. Darn, I cannot find my last eyeglasses prescription !
I really want to get some reduced eyeglasses now, but I don't have all the information they are wanting.
Can someone tell me whether this information is critical to the prescription ? Probably a dumb question Big Grin
What does it mean?
OD-CYL
OD-ADD


Perhaps I will just have to wait another month until my next scheduled eye exam Sad

Thankyou for your input Sorrisiblue ! I will check out the Method of the Month forum.

Thank you! Smile
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#9
itsme Wrote:OK I'm on the Zenni OPtical website. Darn, I cannot find my last eyeglasses prescription !
I really want to get some reduced eyeglasses now, but I don't have all the information they are wanting.
Can someone tell me whether this information is critical to the prescription ? Probably a dumb question Big Grin
What does it mean?
OD-CYL
OD-ADD


Perhaps I will just have to wait another month until my next scheduled eye exam Sad

Thankyou for your input Sorrisiblue ! I will check out the Method of the Month forum.

Thank you! Smile

Well OD refers to the right eye, Oculus Dextrus. The CYL refers to cylindrical correction and I think ADD refers to spherical correction. These would be your myopia and astigmatism prescriptions, so you should try to find out some idea before purchasing your glasses. If you really need to know, take your glasses to an optometrist. I believe that the prescription can be found from examining the glasses.
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#10
oops I do have/know CYL ! and the ADD I'm told, is for those who have bifocals, so I'm ready to order ! ;D
Is everyone ordering from Zenni Optical ? What about goggles4u.com ? thanks
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#11
Dear Itsme,

Quote:OK I'm on the Zenni OPtical website. Darn, I cannot find my last eyeglasses prescription !
I really want to get some reduced eyeglasses now, but I don't have all the information they are wanting.

Otis> What they need (basically) is your "Spherical" prescription. If your astig. is less that
-1 diotpers you can ignore it -- or convert it. (I will explain how).

Can someone tell me whether this information is critical to the prescription ?

Otis> The OD gets your "prescription" by having you read a Snellen, and then
finding a minus lens that "clears" the 20/20 line. (This is a very simple
process -- which you could do yourself if you had the minus lens set.)

Let us say he finds a -6 lens clears the 20/20 line. He then takes a
"astigmatic" lens and attempts further clearing. I he finds that
a -1 cyl. at 90 degrees makes the 20/20 line sharper -- then that
becomes your "prescription".

-6 sphere, and a -1 cyl at 90 degrees Smile

Probably a dumb question
What does it mean?

OD-CYL

Otis> The basic prescription of sperical and astig.


OD-ADD

If you are over 40 years old they will assume you
are "presbyopic" and "add" a plus (less minus)
on the bottom as a bifocal.


Perhaps I will just have to wait another month until my next scheduled eye exam

Otis> You can. The post it. Smile
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#12
Hi Otis !

Otis> What they need (basically) is your "Spherical" prescription. If your astig. is less that
-1 diotpers you can ignore it -- or convert it. (I will explain how).


It's ok, I got all the information I needed, but your comment about astig interests me because
when I reduced my overall prescription I really didn't know how much to reduce the astig by !?
Are you saying I could have reduced my asigmatism presciption entirely, or please explain. I only reduced it by .25,
as you can see below.

Complete picture:
my original prescription was: -6 with -1 astig. at 180 / -5 with -1 astig. at 180.
I was able to reduce it over the 1 1/2 year period to: -4.5 with -.75 astig. at 180/-3.5 with -.75 at 180.
With this reduced prescription I was able to see 20/20. Big Grin thank you
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#13
Dear Itsme,

Subject: My dislike of that "astigmatism" so-called "correction".

The measurement is made in a dark room with a poorly illuminated Snellen. The
result is sometimes and error in the measurement. I ALWAYS ask that
I be given NO ASTIGMATISM -- consistent with DMV requirments. (I would
rather have 20/25 and no astigmatism, than 20/20 with astigmatism.

If the OD will not comply with this reasonable request -- I find another
OD who will. Smile


Quote:It's ok, I got all the information I needed, but your comment about astig interests me because
when I reduced my overall prescription I really didn't know how much to reduce the astig by !?

Quote:Are you saying I could have reduced my asigmatism presciption entirely, or please explain. I only reduced it by .25,
as you can see below.

Yes, it is very simple.

You just take the "Spherical" in your prescription, and then add 1/2 the Astig part
to the Spherical. This is called "Spherical Equivalent". Smile


Quote:Complete picture:

my original prescription was: -6 with -1 astig. at 180 / -5 with -1 astig. at 180.

Then you take the -6 and add 1/2 the -1. This will be -6.5 diopters spherical equivalent.


Quote:I was able to reduce it over the 1 1/2 year period to: -4.5 with -.75 astig. at 180/-3.5 with -.75 at 180.
With this reduced prescription I was able to see 20/20.


Otis> That is quite an improvement. Again, if you wish to order Spherical from Zennioptical, then
just do the same thing. When you get the lenses, you can check your Snellen and confirm
that you pass the REQUIRED legal standard of reading 3/4 inch letters at 20 feet.

Otis> Even if you are at 20/30, you can expect (by using Bates) that you will
experience further Snellen clearing.

Otis> Plus, if you are going to progressively REDUCE your prescription, consistent
with PASSING the 20/40 line, it is a lot less costly to order the lenses
from Zennioptical.com for $10, rather than paying $300 for every
change in prescription.

Just my second-opinion, Smile

Otis



thank you
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#14
Otis > You just take the "Spherical" in your prescription, and then add 1/2 the Astig part
to the Spherical. This is called "Spherical Equivalent".
Complete picture:
my original prescription was: -6 with -1 astig. at 180 / -5 with -1 astig. at 180.
Then you take the -6 and add 1/2 the -1. This will be -6.5 diopters spherical equivalent."

Itsme >Excellent - thanks very much for your help on that !


I was able to reduce it over the 1 1/2 year period to: -4.5 with -.75 astig. at 180/-3.5 with -.75 at 180.
With this reduced prescription I was able to see 20/20.
Otis> That is quite an improvement.
Itsme > well, thank You! ;D


Otis> Plus, if you are going to progressively REDUCE your prescription, consistent
with PASSING the 20/40 line, it is a lot less costly to order the lenses
from Zennioptical.com for $10, rather than paying $300 for every
change in prescription.
Itsme > Exactly ! I will continue on doing what I've been doing ! I will report any improvements as I see them.
ps..This is a very good forum here..

Regards
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#15
Dear ItsMe,

I am pleased that David maintains this "open" site where we can
honestly discuss the preventive second-opinion. Smile

I am sad that too many ODs feel that they can "omit" this
type of discussion with you, and not send you
to Sites like this one where you could learn to even
avoid entry into myopia. Smile

Otis
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