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Strain - distance or whole field?
#1
Hi folks

I think this is the common experience but I'm wondering what others found. Firstly you struggle to read the board in class - you're about 10 metres away, nevertheless you can still see the words - they are just a bit hazy that's all, everything else that's closer is pretty clear. Nevertheless you don't question the status quo and get a pair of glasses .....next thing you know you can't read something 5 inches from your face!!! >Sad

I was just wondering if anyone had the experience (or knows others) of staying away from glasses for a while....and found the same occurence - a break down in the whole visual field?
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#2
Glasses increase eye muscle tension, mental strain, neck tension, and impair the eyes natural function/ability to converge/accommodate for clear close vision and unconverge (diverge)/unaccommodate for clear distant vision.
I had this problem in elementary school.
couldnt see board far away.
got glasses but did not like them.
teacher let me sit closer to front of class without glasses.
vision got better, 20/30, 25 and clearer when not trying hard to see anything.
stayed away from glasses.
In high school, found huxleys book; the art of seeing.
used the method and cured distant vision to 20/20 and sometimes much clearer.
close vision always clear til age 40.
Was a heavy beer drinker til age 45,. Extreme alchole consumption lowers health function of optic nerve, body, eyes gereral health.
Thomas Quackenbush's book Relearning to see and his class brought my close vision back to 20/20 clearer at age 40.
Stay away from glasses.
Practice the Bates method and a goood diet.
get routine eye exams to check the eyes health but remember; stay away from eyeglasses and cornea surgery.

clark night
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#3
Thanks Clark Night,

Your experience seems to highlight the fact it is the use of glasses that causes the eyesight to deteriorate.
I read a little of your website - interesting. I wasn't really aware that the energy provided by full spectrum sunlight(gained through entering the eyes) was so needed by our bodies organs to function well - glasses certainly block out much light - makes me question why we place so much emphasis on visual acuity when healthy vision is surely also about other things like colour perception, peripheral awareness, sensitivity to bright-light, the ease of eye movement, depth perception and probably loads more things that are worsened by wearing glasses.

Another interesting point you mentioned was a break down in right brain and left brain integration. I didn't read too much about that, if you have time, could you give a little info about it.

Thanks Smile
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#4
When glasses are worn, in almost every case the vision ends up worsened.

To the question: 'Strain - distance or whole field', I would say that it is very difficult to strain at one distance and not strain simultaneously at another. A person with imperfect sight at the distance can never have perfect sight at the near point, because the mind is not at rest. When the mind is not at rest, vision can never be good. Of course, for most myopes the strain would be much worse at the distance than the near point, thus causing worse imperfect sight in the distance than the near point.
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#5
left and right brain hemisphere question reply.

The eyes and entire brain, left and right hemispheres, visual cortex, glands, organsin brain... are activated by, use sunlight.
the light should be natural, full spectrum sunlight.
constantly being in artificial light which is unbalanced, or wearing plain glasses, or tinted, dark lenses blocks out part of the suns light spectrum causing unbalanced partial spectrum light to enter the eyes, brain, body.
this partial spectrum light confuses, lowers the eye, brain, bodys function.
light travels along the spine to the body and throughout the nervous systems.
There have been experiments that resulted in the eyes retina being burned, cells destroyed by exposing the eye to a constant input of only one, two light spectrums.
see books by john ott and light medicine of the future by liberman.
As you mentioned; glasses impair color perception, peripheral awareness, shifting (eye movement), debth, distance perception.
these are controlled by the brain, left and right hemispheres, visual cortex.
Other functions controlled by the brain that glasses impair/lower are; central fixation, movement of the body, head, face.., (doing the long swing relaxes, activates and integrates the left and right brain hemispheres as the eyes, head/face, body swing left and right). Glasses impair perception of size, shape, distance of a object, thus the ability to remember, imagine the objects true appearance at close, middle, fardistances with eyes open and closed. This is one of bates practices; remembering the period, (letters, objects) perfect, equally clear eyes closed and open.
Glasses do most of the accommodation, convergence for close distances and divergence, unaccommodation for far distances.
this impairs the eyes, eye muscles, and brain, left and right hemispheres natural ability to perform these functions without glasses.
the left and right hemispheres, brain, nervous systems control contraction, uncontraction movement of the eye muscles/eyes.
Add to the impairment of natural functions that eyeglasses cause - the unbalanced light the eyes are recieving through the glasses and all functions are lowered.
Mules, men working in coal ines for years without sunlight develope cataracts, blindness and health problems.
The eyes, brain, body, skin also need full spectrum sunlight to make vitamin D and other nutrients in the body and to assimilate, digest, enable interaction of the nutrients.
The body, eyes needs good nutrition to absorb/use sunlight and protect the eyes, skin from overexposure to strong sunlight.
a hat with a wide brim, clothing and shade under a tree when needed is better than eyeglasses, sunglasses to prevent overexposure.
i have been taking the advice of persons that write to me on this site and have printed out the full Bates book for mysel and am studying it two more times and will try to place more Bates info on my site with some diagrams as opposed to the modern and vision therapy treatments.
It is really a book in progress, only 3/4 done.
I am hoping that kazekage or oleg k can please explain the universal swing to me.
i know only the long swing, sway.
what is the universal and other swings Bates has used? how to do them?.
sorry my english and typing is not the best.
pretty bad for a writer hey?
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#6
No no, your English skill (grammar & vocabulary) are both amazing. Anyone would think that English is your native language, if you didn't tell otherwise. Wink

Quote:what is the universal and other swings Bates has used? how to do them?.

The universal swing is easy. It's just noticing how the whole world (i.e. universe), how every single object that you pass by at the same time swings in the opposite of the direction your gaze moves in. Ever watched a cartoon? See how those lines the drawers use to make the picture/car/person seem like they're moving, or how they give background images a blurry slant in order to animate the surroundings? That's basically the universal swing, you could say. A list of the various swings is quoted from the magazines below.

The Optical Swing

By W. H. Bates, M. D.

Most people when they look at stationary objects believe that they see such objects stationary; but if they observe the facts more closely, they find that when the normal eye regards a small letter of the Snellen Test Card with normal sight, the letter does not appear to be stationary, but seems to move from side to side, a distance about the width of the letter. This is called the optical swing.

During the late war, a soldier, who was rated as a sharpshooter, told me that when he regarded the bull's eye of a target five hundred yards away or further, that he had difficulty in aiming his gun properly because the bull's eye seemed to move from side to side a very short distance. Both he and others who had observed it did not discuss the matter with any great interest.

The movement of a letter or other object from side to side in the optical swing is so short, so slow, that most persons with normal eyes have never noticed it. There is no reference to the optical swing in any publication which I have seen. It is a truth that in all cases of normal sight the optical swing can be demonstrated. In all cases of imperfect sight the optical swing is modified; it may be lengthened, it may become too rapid and irregular. The swing is a necessary part of perfect sight. The importance of it has not been realized. With the short optical swing the vision is good while the mental efficiency and the efficiency of the nerves and muscles is enormously increased.

THE SHORT SWING
: When the swing is short, no more than the width of the letter, the vision is normal; when the vision is normal, the swing is short. One cannot have normal vision of a letter, a normal memory of a normal imagination, without demonstrating the presence of a short optical swing.

It can be demonstrated that it is impossible to remember or imagine with the eyes closed a letter, a color or any object without the optical swing. When the swing is stopped an effort or strain is necessary, which may be conscious or unconscious, and the memory or imagination becomes imperfect. Normal vision is not maintained continuously without the short optical swing. It is not necessary, however, for one to be conscious of the swing in order to demonstrate normal vision.

Methods of treatment which restore the optical swing are a benefit to imperfect sight. When the short swing can be demonstrated, the vision, the memory and the imagination are normal. One cannot imagine the short swing and imperfect sight at the same time. One cannot remember or imagine pain, fatigue or any symptom of disease and the short swing at the same time. For example, the symptoms of acute indigestion have disappeared when the patient imagined the short swing of a letter or some other object. In some cases, hay fever symptoms have disappeared quickly and permanently, through the use of the short swing. Bronchial troubles, the cough associated with influenza and whooping cough, have disappeared quickly when the short swing was imagined quickly.

THE UNIVERSAL SWING: When you hold the Snellen Test Card in your hand, you can imagine a small letter "o" printed on the card to have a slow, short, easy, continuous, regular swing. Of course, when the "o" swings, the card to which it is fastened also swings; when the hand holding the card swings, the card swings and the letter "o" swings. When the letter "o" swings the card swings, the hand swings, the wrist, the forearm, the elbow, are all swinging with the "o". If the elbow rests on the arm of the chair, when the chair moves the elbow moves; when the elbow moves, the card moves. One can demonstrate that a letter "o" pasted on the Brooklyn Bridge moves when the bridge moves, and when the "o" moves the bridge moves. One may think of many objects, one at a time, each one in turn moving with the moving "o". This is called the universal swing.

The universal swing has been a wonderful benefit in improving many cases of imperfect sight, in the relief of pain, fatigue and other symptoms of disease. It can be demonstrated that when one has the universal swing the sight is perfect. If the universal swing becomes modified, the sight is imperfect. There as no exceptions. This fact has suggested successful treatment for myopia, cataract, and other causes of imperfect sight.

It is well to remember that some people have difficulty in imagining the universal swing. They are very apt to separate the letter "o" from the card and imagine that either the card or the letter moves; and it is difficult for them to imagine the letter and the card fastened together and one unable to move without the other moving. Of course one can imagine the hand moving and the arm stationary, but when the hand and the arm are in a vice or fastened very closely together without any hings, it is difficult or impossible to imagine the hand is moving without the arm moving as well. Persons who have difficulty in imagining the universal swing should consult others who can demonstrate it, explain it and help them to accomplish it.

I generally suggest to my patients that they practice the universal swing twice daily, morning and night; or better still, practice it at all times, in all places, no matter where they are or what they may be doing.

THE MEMORY SWING: With the eyes closed you can feel your eyes move under your fingers when lightly touching the eyelids. If you imagine that you are looking over your right shoulder, you can feel the eyeballs move to the right, and a long distance to the right. When you imagine that you are looking over your left shoulder, you can feel your eyeballs moving to the left, and far to the left. One can shorten the movement of the eyeballs by looking a shorter distance to the right, alternately looking to the left. With a little practice one can feel or imagine one feels, the eyeballs are moving the shortest possible distance from side to side. The eyeballs can be seen to move under the closed eyelids. The memory swing is a good thing to practice under conditions which would not be so convenient for the other kinds of swings. One can practice the memory swing in a dark room, on a dark night, in a dark cellar, in bed, and obtain a mental relaxation or an optical relaxation or a relaxation of the nerves which is worth while.

THE VARIABLE SWING: Some years ago a school teacher called for treatment. She had a conical cornea, which is a very serious disease of the front part of the eye. The cornea bulges and becomes conical. The apex of the cornea becomes ulcerated, and may become perforated with loss of aqueous. Various operations have been recommended, but the results have been usually very unsatisfactory. The vision of the patient was 1/20 of the normal. She was very much benefited by the variable swing. The variable swing is shorter at twenty feet, or further than it is at six inches. In this swing the patient holds the forefinger of one hand to one side of the temple, and while looking at the Sneilen Test Card, the head is moved from side to side a short distance. The patient when looking straight at the card, was able to imagine the finger moving from side to side an inch or more, while the test card moved a much shorter distance, or did not appear to move at all. By shortening the movement of the head, the swing became still shorter, until the finger seemed to move no more than its own width, and the card seemed stationary. It was very remarkable how her vision improved with the improvement in the swing. At the end of about an hour of the variable swing, her vision had improved to 1/2 with flashes of normal sight occasionally, which was a great deal better than the vision she obtained with her glasses.

There are some people who can practice the variable swing and obtain good results, while there are others who are not able to use it with any help or comfort. It is difficult for me to explain why or how, some people obtain good results from this form of a swing, while others require supervision with a great deal of mental gymnastics from their medical adviser.

THE LONG SWING: The patient stands with the feet about twelve inches apart, facing one wall of the room. He is directed to turn his body and his shoulders to the right, and in order to do this he lifts the left heel a few inches from the floor. The head is not turned on the shoulders, and the eyes are not moved in the head. The whole movement is brought about by turning the body until the shoulders are square with the right hand wall. Then the body is turned to the left, and to promote this movement the right heel is lifted a few inches from the floor. The body is turned until the shoulders are square with the left wall. It is very important that moving objects are not observed closely: do not try to see clearly objects which are moving.

This is the long swing, and it can be done with great benefit, because it relieves symptoms of pain when other methods do not succeed. When the patient is suffering from a severe pain, it is not easy or always possible to imagine the short swing. The long swing is the only one available under these conditions. The long swing is always a relief to some extent; and furthermore, it enables the patient very soon to obtain the short swing, which gives even greater relief from pain than the long swing. Besides relieving pain, the long swing benefits or relieves fatigue.

It is a matter of great interest, that the long swing relieves pain, without necessarily correcting the cause of the pain. Pain from an injury or from a foreign body, can be relieved by the long swing. The long swing does not usually give complete relief of pain, but it paves the way to the practice of the short swing, which is a greater relief.

The long swing is also a benefit to imperfect sight. The central vision is improved, and what is also unusual, the long swing improves the field of vision. It improves night blindness, it improves day blindness. The long swing has improved opacities of the cornea so dense, that vision was reduced to perception of light. Yet, although the opacity of the cornea was so dense, in some cases, that the pupil could not be seen, it would clear and the vision become normal after some weeks or months. The long swing also helps glaucoma, cataract, diseases of the optic nerve, diseases of the choroid, detachment of the retina.

One needs a sufficient amount of light in order to practice the long swing.

THE DRIFTING SWING: One day there came to the office a patient, who was among the worst that I have ever seen. In the first place, the pain that he had in his head, his eyes, his shoulders, his back, and pretty much in all parts of his body, was the most severe that any of my patients has ever described. It was so severe that I have often suspected that he used a dope of some kind. Beside the pain, he complained of great depression. To hear him talk, he gave you the impression of being very miserable; and for some reason or other, he could describe the condition of general misery more vividly than I have ever had the pleasure (?) of hearing it described before. His misery was mitigated to some extent, he said, when he took long walks with one or more friends, and became interested in their conversation.

This case was remarkable for several reasons. With all my knowledge of various methods of resting the eyes, he failed to obtain the slightest benefit from them. In fact he said that when he tried the treatment, the pain, the depression, and his general misery, were increased alarmingly, and instead of being a rest, it was actually an injury. He did not see a dark shade of black when he closed his eyes, but rather various colors—red, blue, etc. I tried to have him practice the swing, and I exhausted my knowledge of the various kinds of swings, but was unable to have him practice successfully any swing that was of the slightest benefit; in fact, the more he tried to follow my suggestions, the worse he felt. Again I tried him with memory, encouraging him to tell me of the experiences he had had in Europe, in New York, and in his home town. He had absolutely no mental pictures, and although I had usually been able to teach people how to imagine mental pictures, in this case I failed ignominiously.

I tried many things that I knew and after I had exhausted the things that I had already practiced, I realized that I was up against it, and had to devise and have him practice with benefit, something that I had never recommended before. As he could not think of anything continuously without discomfort, I suggested that he let his mind drift. As he had a very active mind and was continually thinking of a great many things, I suggested that he make no effort to keep his attention fixed on any one thing, but let his eyes keep shifting from one object to another. I asked him not to strain his eyesight to see the things about the room at all clearly, but rather to remember or specialize or think about objects in some other room. For example, when he looked at a chair in the waiting room, I asked him to remember some other chair or other object that he had seen in some other room.

It is not easy to describe what I mean by the drifting swing. Of course when he looked from right to left, the objects seen moved from left to right; when he looked up the objects moved down, and the whole time that he spent in shifting his eyes continuously to various parts of the room, some of the objects moved opposite to the direction of his shifting. His mental pictures, if he had any, were remembered with so little responsibility on his part, that he felt no discomfort. Part of the time he spent talking to some of the patients in the waiting room, and I encouraged him to take things easy, and to be as comfortable as he knew how.

In this I believe, he succeeded, because when I invited him to go into another room, where he could test his sight with the Snellen Test Card, he was smiling, a new experience for him. His vision for distance was normal, and the speed with which he read all the letters on the test card was gratifying. The rest had given him, at least temporarily, perfect sight for the distance, whereas before even with his glasses on his vision was less than one-half the normal. He was also unable to read diamond type with or without his glasses. After practicing the drifting swing he read the diamond type rapidly, perfectly and without any apparent effort, at less than twelve inches. Then he said to me,

"Doctor, do you think you can help me?"

I answered him, "Did you read the test card and the fine print perfectly?"

"Yes," he answered and blushed.

That was the first time I ever saw a man blush under such circumstances. The blush was to me an admission that he realized that I had given him a temporary cure. He sends me patients from time to time, who report that his eyes seem to be cured without glasses.

All this happened some years ago, and I have been able in many other cases, to obtain good results with the drifting swing, when other treatment had failed.

FAILURES: There are some people who have great difficulty in demonstrating the illusion of stationary objects moving. Persons with imperfect sight do not ever imagine perfectly the optical swing. By practicing resting the eyes, testing the memory and imagination, they may after some weeks, months, or a longer period, become able to imagine a short, as well as a long swing. The failure to imagine that stationary objects are moving, is always due to a stare or strain. One can stare in looking straight ahead with the center of sight, and one can stare by trying to see with the sides of the retina, eccentric fixation.

The normal eye is only at rest when it is moving, and the optical swing can be demonstrated.


- January 1924
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#7
Quote:i have been taking the advice of persons that write to me on this site and have printed out the full Bates book for mysel and am studying it two more times and will try to place more Bates info on my site with some diagrams as opposed to the modern and vision therapy treatments.

Well, I'm really pleased that you decided to edit your website and cut away the non-relevant stuff. Pure Bates is the best thing. I can't wait to see your site when you finished it ;D and I'm also very encouraged that you are reading and re-reading the original Bates book! I think if you study it well, and if you are cured like you say you are, you will become an expert in no time. If you have perfect sight, it will be a breeze to understand what Bates writes about, because all you have to do is observe and study the workings of your own vision. BTW All this right left hemisphere stuff is pretty interesting. It's amazing how, even being fully aware of this damage that glasses cause as you have described above, that people on this forum still insist on wearing their glasses. I almost feel like slapping them in the face, lol.
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#8
Thanks for the swings!
Universal swing sounds like what they call oppositional movement?
I will try all the swings today with family>
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#9
I have been practicing switching visual attention on objects at close and far distances, shifting, using central fixation on the objects.
I practice with both eyes and one eye at a time and then both together.
Natural vision improvement teachers state to keep the objects i am looking at between the left and right eyes, center of the visual field when using both eyes together and when using one eye at a time to keep good convergence, divergence and prevent wandering eye conditions.
For years when i need a tune up to bring my vision back to 20/20 and clearer i stay with this rule but, also when using one eye i spend some time switching close and far with the close object between the eyes, center of left and right eyes visual field but i do not place the distant object between the eyes.
i just switch to and shift on any distant object that "appears" directly beyond the close object, in front of that one eye i am using, even though, in reality, if i uncover the other eye, look at the distant object with both eyes, i can see that the distant object is not in front of the eye in use, it is in front of the other eye.
when using both eyes i always place the close and distant objects in the center of the visual field.
when i use one eye at a time i practice like the teachers tell me with the close and distant objects between the left and right eyes, in the center of the visual field.
when using one eye at a time I also break the rule and practice with the close object (example finger) between the eyes and with the distant object not between the eyes but "appearing" to be in direct line with and beyond the finger in the distance.
I practice this with the left eye, then the right, then left, then right... If vision needs more improvement in one eye i practice alittle more with that eye.
i switch back and forth on the finger and distant object; close, far, close, far always shifting alittle on each object i look at, blink, relax, no sqinting, no staring. I keep relaxed eye, head, face, neck, body movement.
I then return to practiceing with both the close and distant objects between the eyes in the center of the visual field.

I always start and end by practicing switching close and far and shifting, central fixation with both the close and far objects between the left and right eyes in the center of the visual field, practicing with both eyes together, then one eye at a time; left, then right, then left, then right, then with both eyes together again to keep normal convergence, unconvergence and accommodation, unaccommodation occuring in scronization with convergence, divergence.
Then i break the rule for a short time;
When i break the rule and practice with one eye with the distant object not between the left and right eyes and when i also break the rule even further by placing the both the close and distant objects in front of one eye, (both objects not between the left and right eyes), i always obtain very clear fine detailed vision much clearer than 20/20.
The clear vision occurs immediately or in one to two days and remains.
i used to have less clear vision in the left eye for distance and in the right eye for close but when i practice this my vision is so perfeclty clear that i cannot remember which eye had less clear vision.
The left and right brain hemispheres also control left and right eye function, movement, clarity and when my vision is very clear after practice my mind is clear, memory, imagination, mood, energy, relaxation and other functions are greatly improved.
After practice clear vision remains for weeks, months, often years if i keep with Bates Method and even if i do nothing, my eyes just function correct and vision stays clear because i guess the activity improves vision so much the Bates principals shifting...normal eye/brain function occur automatically, on their own).

I know that when i break the rule when using one eye, practicing with objects not between the left and right eyes my convergence, divergence is not being perfected but i think it greatly improves accommodation at close distances and unaccommodation at far distances and the use of the center of the visual field (fovea centralis) in each individual eye.
Many natural eyesight improvement teachers disapprove of this.
Often Bates teachers also disapprove stating that switching close and far is unnatural, not Bates method.
I only know that this works for me and others and after i gain the super clear vision from this practice it is much easier and fun to practice all the Bates method activities and this keeps the vision clear.
When vision is clear or clearer it is easier to shift point to point on a object, to see one object, one part of a object clearest at a time in the center of the visual field, ect.
i do not practice switching close and far all the time, and never as a rigid exercise.
It is done in a relaxed, easy manner, never trying to see clear.
95% of the time I stay with just shfting, central fixation as my eyes/visual attention move relaxed thoughout the visual field from object to object, distance to distance, moveing my head/face body with the direction of the eyes to place each object i look at in the center of the visual field.
Relaxed, easy shifting and movment.
With alittle practice this occurs naturally, subconsciously, the eyes functioning correct on their own.
The person does not have to think about the eyes and the activities.
kids, adults with clear sight do not think about the eyes and clarity of vision.
They do not try to control eye function and clarity of vision.
Once vision is improved we should let the eyes work independently.

Thank you David for stating that we can feel free to post all our experiences.
clark night
cleareyesight.info
Love the iblindness forum.
Will write more replys, experiences when i get the time.
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