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		By: Roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31110&quot;&gt;Doug Marsh&lt;/a&gt;.

Great - thanks a lot, Doug! Particularly for that online resource.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31110">Doug Marsh</a>.</p>
<p>Great &#8211; thanks a lot, Doug! Particularly for that online resource.</p>
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		By: Doug Marsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Marsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31105&quot;&gt;Roman&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Roman,
Check out the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment/dp/1608824942/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=triggerpointt-20&#038;linkCode=w00&#038;linkId=TG4WFZPZF27YRLUN&#038;creativeASIN=1608824942&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trigger Point Therapy Workbook&lt;/a&gt; for more specifics about TPs in the head, face and neck. Also see this link: http://www.triggerpoints.net/head-and-neck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31105">Roman</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Roman,<br />
Check out the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment/dp/1608824942/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=triggerpointt-20&amp;linkCode=w00&amp;linkId=TG4WFZPZF27YRLUN&amp;creativeASIN=1608824942" rel="nofollow">Trigger Point Therapy Workbook</a> for more specifics about TPs in the head, face and neck. Also see this link: <a href="http://www.triggerpoints.net/head-and-neck" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.triggerpoints.net/head-and-neck</a></p>
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		By: Roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067&quot;&gt;niraj&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh wow. I recently had a very similar(?) experience while traveling by train on a very sunny day. I was sitting at the window, and the sun came straight from the right, often through stretches of naked trees. Once in a while I closed my eyes - and ... flash after flash after flash of highly(!) geometric patterns (checkers, stripes circles ...) in ultra quick succession. I&#039;m highly myopic (last measured 5 or so years ago at -7.00, haven&#039;t been since). But wasn&#039;t wearing any lenses of course.
Your description of &quot;onset of blurry vision accompanied by geometric patters&quot; also reminds me of the &quot;migraine auras&quot; I&#039;ve come across recently. There is a book on the topic by Richard Grossinger that explicitly makes the connection with blurry/failing vision. 

Edit: Oh - I see ... you&#039;ve already heard about the possible migraine connection ... I should really read a bit slower.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067">niraj</a>.</p>
<p>Oh wow. I recently had a very similar(?) experience while traveling by train on a very sunny day. I was sitting at the window, and the sun came straight from the right, often through stretches of naked trees. Once in a while I closed my eyes &#8211; and &#8230; flash after flash after flash of highly(!) geometric patterns (checkers, stripes circles &#8230;) in ultra quick succession. I&#8217;m highly myopic (last measured 5 or so years ago at -7.00, haven&#8217;t been since). But wasn&#8217;t wearing any lenses of course.<br />
Your description of &#8220;onset of blurry vision accompanied by geometric patters&#8221; also reminds me of the &#8220;migraine auras&#8221; I&#8217;ve come across recently. There is a book on the topic by Richard Grossinger that explicitly makes the connection with blurry/failing vision. </p>
<p>Edit: Oh &#8211; I see &#8230; you&#8217;ve already heard about the possible migraine connection &#8230; I should really read a bit slower.</p>
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		By: Roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 14:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, there seem to be quite a few inherent paradoxes in NVI. But I think learning to accept those and somehow make &quot;sense&quot; of them is part of that particular journey, and paradoxes are apparently also a domain of the right hemisphere, which kinda makes them even more interesting and possibly fruiful :) To me, there seems to be a lot of &quot;open focus&quot; (Femi; not be confused with &quot;excentric fixation&quot; or &quot;diffussion&quot; - another paradox?) required here.

But I actually wanted to ask something: Can you recommend a source / handbook / manual etc. for the facial trigger point therapy you&#039;ve mentioned, Doug? There are numerous sections on self-massage in the books I have read, but your source/approach sounds more specific somehow. And don&#039;t worry - I&#039;m not looking for the &#039;definite guide to curing all my ailments, visual and otherwise&#039;, just some suggestions worth looking into. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there seem to be quite a few inherent paradoxes in NVI. But I think learning to accept those and somehow make &#8220;sense&#8221; of them is part of that particular journey, and paradoxes are apparently also a domain of the right hemisphere, which kinda makes them even more interesting and possibly fruiful 🙂 To me, there seems to be a lot of &#8220;open focus&#8221; (Femi; not be confused with &#8220;excentric fixation&#8221; or &#8220;diffussion&#8221; &#8211; another paradox?) required here.</p>
<p>But I actually wanted to ask something: Can you recommend a source / handbook / manual etc. for the facial trigger point therapy you&#8217;ve mentioned, Doug? There are numerous sections on self-massage in the books I have read, but your source/approach sounds more specific somehow. And don&#8217;t worry &#8211; I&#8217;m not looking for the &#8216;definite guide to curing all my ailments, visual and otherwise&#8217;, just some suggestions worth looking into. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Vachelsav		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067&quot;&gt;niraj&lt;/a&gt;.

dropping propolis in the eyes helps, drinking 1 tea spoon of hydrogen peroxide with carbonated water helps, and don&#039;t look at led light (any energy saving lamp for that matter) as that is visual pollution and hurts the eyes, suppresses melanin generation and aids in sleeplessness]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067">niraj</a>.</p>
<p>dropping propolis in the eyes helps, drinking 1 tea spoon of hydrogen peroxide with carbonated water helps, and don&#8217;t look at led light (any energy saving lamp for that matter) as that is visual pollution and hurts the eyes, suppresses melanin generation and aids in sleeplessness</p>
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		By: Doug Marsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Marsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067&quot;&gt;niraj&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi niraj,

I’ve never experienced the symptoms you describe, nor do I recall reading about such symptoms for others.

Geometric patterns. That’s interesting. It reminds me of a recent contestant on the show, &lt;em&gt;The Voice&lt;/em&gt;, who said she sees colors when she hears music. Her condition is called &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/synesthesia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;synesthesia&lt;/a&gt;. However, for you, it’s the same sense that’s triggering the patterns.

I’ve suffered from high sensitivity to brightness. It was especially bad when I first started NVI. I loved being outside without wearing eyeglasses as much as possible to be more aware of central fixation (what I call concentric focus), 3D depth perception, apparent motion, and such. When I would get back inside under artificial lights, though, my natural eyesight was much more blurry than when I first went outside. The worse blur would last for what seemed like a couple of hours. This sensitivity has definitely abated considerably over the years, and my pre-outside clarity recovers quickly now.

Sorry, but I don’t have any suggestions to offer other than trying different Bates relaxation techniques and being patient over the long run. It may take a long period of time before you notice slight improvements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iblindness.org/5065/relaxation-is-a-paradox-with-natural-vision-improvement/#comment-31067">niraj</a>.</p>
<p>Hi niraj,</p>
<p>I’ve never experienced the symptoms you describe, nor do I recall reading about such symptoms for others.</p>
<p>Geometric patterns. That’s interesting. It reminds me of a recent contestant on the show, <em>The Voice</em>, who said she sees colors when she hears music. Her condition is called <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/synesthesia" rel="nofollow">synesthesia</a>. However, for you, it’s the same sense that’s triggering the patterns.</p>
<p>I’ve suffered from high sensitivity to brightness. It was especially bad when I first started NVI. I loved being outside without wearing eyeglasses as much as possible to be more aware of central fixation (what I call concentric focus), 3D depth perception, apparent motion, and such. When I would get back inside under artificial lights, though, my natural eyesight was much more blurry than when I first went outside. The worse blur would last for what seemed like a couple of hours. This sensitivity has definitely abated considerably over the years, and my pre-outside clarity recovers quickly now.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I don’t have any suggestions to offer other than trying different Bates relaxation techniques and being patient over the long run. It may take a long period of time before you notice slight improvements.</p>
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		By: niraj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Doug,
Am looking for suggestions as I am suffering frequently from seeing geometric patterns of light even with eyes closed &#038; blurring of vision triggered by exposure to &quot;bright light&quot; ( normal for others). This lasts for upto 30 mins-may be stressed induced. Doctors say it is Dry eyes syndrome and prescribe use of Tear drops. Some say it is migrane.
Onset is slight blurring of vision accompanied by geometric patterns; I normally close eyes and put on sunglasses but  once it starts the geometric pattern of light builds up.  Towards end have a slight heaviness in the forehead. Your inputs welcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,<br />
Am looking for suggestions as I am suffering frequently from seeing geometric patterns of light even with eyes closed &amp; blurring of vision triggered by exposure to &#8220;bright light&#8221; ( normal for others). This lasts for upto 30 mins-may be stressed induced. Doctors say it is Dry eyes syndrome and prescribe use of Tear drops. Some say it is migrane.<br />
Onset is slight blurring of vision accompanied by geometric patterns; I normally close eyes and put on sunglasses but  once it starts the geometric pattern of light builds up.  Towards end have a slight heaviness in the forehead. Your inputs welcome.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the post, Doug! Always good to have another perspective on relaxation. I had that book some years ago but I don&#039;t remember studying it much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Doug! Always good to have another perspective on relaxation. I had that book some years ago but I don&#8217;t remember studying it much.</p>
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