Blue eyes Wrote:Hi blauw

I find it difficult to classifying my visual Actuity. Its probably around 20/80 to 20/100. However if I do a 30 min session on the Snellen in the morning then I like to get to see some clear images of 20/40 line which I sometimes achieve. At times I get stuck a few lines before it and then I palm and find that it helps.

I recently got a book from another forum The Secret of Perfect Vision where he talks about ocular muscle stretching. His theory makes a lot of sense and since starting that training I can now really see the power of centalization and sketching. Now with my reduced glasses or even without glasses my eye muscles are getting stronger as now when I focus on an object or line, gradually it becomes clearer or I feel the tension in my eyes as they relax.

The down side of the streching is that it affects the visual Actuity in the short term. However I have been doimg yoga for years to I know the true value of streching so its something that I will definatley continue with for a while.

Certainly the muscle streching has affected my vision and I like to see it as an additional step to Bates method. But who knows.... I am new to all this and am trying different techniques and see where they lead to. I have only been doing this for about two months.

Best regards
Mike

Nancy Wrote:Just to offer a differing viewpoint, I was sorry I spent the money on David DeAngelis's book. I was lured by the fact that he cured his own nearsightedness, & it took me almost half the book to find out that he was only about -2 ! I think he buried this fact because it would have kept him from selling as many books. Since I wore -10 hard contacts for decades, I didn't think he was going to teach me much once I found this out. My second objection is that I totally accept the Bates theory that my eyes & visual system are strained. So the last thing I needed was a vigorous workout, another place to strain! He initially seemed like he was claiming to go beyond Bates, then seemed to back-pedal & give Bates all kinds of credit for his work.

All that said, I'm glad David DeAngelis found a method which worked for him. I supposed it's possible he didn't need relaxation as much as I do, though I doubt it. I'll stick with Bates, with all his research & documented cases of success.

FlowerPower Wrote:I am also having problems with palming, can't relax enough, I belong to those restless. At first I got frustrated, but I admitted to myself that I strain while palming and stopped palming. (I was seeing gray when closed eyes, and when I look after 5-10 mins palming first I see nothing, then stars blur like when TV doesn't have reception. I started noticng my strain, pulling the eyes up, and I also had my eyebrows always pulled up high. Although I could fell muscles are relaxing, sinuses opening, I got easier breathing.) Later I read in Meier Schenider book people who do not allow themselves to relax, and I recognised myself. He has some examples meditations to help. But, mainly you go and do some other exercises. The ones that I find most useful are shifting, swings long and short (just turn head from side to side) and I enjoy 3D stereograms whenever I can. And most surelly the chart is to be worked on which I do not have time for.
But anyway I see progress, I may be around 20/70, but I can see stronger colours, shinings...
In my opninion our eyes, when we have bad vision need to be freed (no strain, that's where palming comes) to move more to catch more light rays. Please everyone, feel free to corect me as I am still just learning, but that's how I understand the vision function.
Good luck!

Nancy Wrote:Just to offer a differing viewpoint, I was sorry I spent the money on David DeAngelis's book. I was lured by the fact that he cured his own nearsightedness, & it took me almost half the book to find out that he was only about -2 ! I think he buried this fact because it would have kept him from selling as many books. Since I wore -10 hard contacts for decades, I didn't think he was going to teach me much once I found this out. My second objection is that I totally accept the Bates theory that my eyes & visual system are strained. So the last thing I needed was a vigorous workout, another place to strain! He initially seemed like he was claiming to go beyond Bates, then seemed to back-pedal & give Bates all kinds of credit for his work.

All that said, I'm glad David DeAngelis found a method which worked for him. I supposed it's possible he didn't need relaxation as much as I do, though I doubt it. I'll stick with Bates, with all his research & documented cases of success.