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Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - Farsighted - 08-14-2007 Hi, my prescription at the moment is LE+2.25, RE +2.75 (lazy). I have worn glasses since the age of 5 but don't know what my prescription was back then. I am now 25. I wear contacts the whole time but recently purchased distance glasses online and requested a prescription of LE+1.00 RE+1.25 in an attempt to improve my eyesight by not having my eyes so used to the strong contacts. Will the reduced prescription distance glasses work for me? I don't like glasses generally as they look too strong and thick on so I am happier with these thinner lenses. Would wearing minus lenses help? Would I become permanently short sighted though if I was to wear minus lenses? At least then the farsightedness would be gone and I wouldn't have to wear these thick wavy lenses. Please advise. Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - otis - 08-14-2007 Dear Farsighted, It think you would be greatly helped by Bates. What is your distance Snellen. I assume you read 20/40 to 20/20 through your "plus" prescription. Can you read your Snellen with a +1 diopter lens on? Can you read it with no plus on. Why do you wear the plus all the time? Can you quit using the plus for distance, and just use it for reading? Why did anyone recommend that you wear the plus all the time? Let us know. and we will help where we can. Otis Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - Farsighted - 08-15-2007 Hi, I started wearing glasses around the age of 5 (don't know what prescription I had back then) I am now 25. A few years after, optician said I had to wear them full-time. Nightmare for me as I have been anti-glasses all my life. Wore them on and off during my child hood (sometimes refused!) and got contacts when I was 15 and have worn them ever since. I can read the 3rd line from the bottom with no glasses or contacts and can kind of make out parts of the 2nd last line. I didn't find that with the contacts reading the chart that much of a difference. Anyhow, saw someone talking about improving their farsightedness using minus lenses. Should I order a pair of -1 glasses? Would that actually improve my prescription long term? Optician says it isn't really possible to improve my sight. I mind trying out a few methods as long as I don't go blind ! Oh, without any power on my right eye, it turns in, so I'd have to wear a prescription on that anyway. Thanks. Thank you. Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - otis - 08-15-2007 Dear Farsighted, Subject: Snellens are not consistent. When you give me a line number -- I can not be certain of your visual acuity. But I suspect it is good. I think you are far better than 20/40, (the DMV requirement) and probably at least 20/25 to 20/20. (Reading 1/2 the letters passes the line. If you could, would you click here: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.smbs.buffalo.edu/oph/ped/IVAC/IVAC.html">http://www.smbs.buffalo.edu/oph/ped/IVAC/IVAC.html</a><!-- m --> And then "Display". Pressing display again gives you a new set of random letters. If you pass the 20/40 line, you can get "must wear glasses removed from you DMV license. You do not need a minus lens at all. Because you eye have probably "adapted" to that full time wear of a plus lens, it may take time to stop wearing it. I think you are a perfect candidate to use the "relaxation" methods of Bates -- as described by David. So let us know your distant vision (Snellen), and we will go to the next step to help you "back out of" that plus lens. Best, Otis Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - Farsighted - 08-16-2007 Hi Otis, I did the snellen test twice and sort of got different results each time but here they are anyhow: 1st time RE 20/30 line 3/5 right and 20/25 line 1/5 right LE 20/30 line 2/5 right and 20/25 line 0/5 right Both eyes: 20/30 line 1/5 right 20/25 line 1/5 right With Glasses (+1.00 LE, +1.50 RE) 20/30 3/5 right and 20/25 3/5 right 2nd time RE 20/30 4/5 right and 20/25 0 right LE 20/25 1/5 right With the glasses 20/25 0 right Disappointed minus glasses wouldn't work as would prefer to wear them as I think they are more socially acceptable than plus glasses especially my prescription and I would prefer to have very thin lenses. Thank you for your time. Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - otis - 08-16-2007 Dear Farsighted, Thanks for providing your Snellen reading. You would pass the DMV Snellen, which requires that you read 20/40 (or better) with both eyes open. Alternatively, the requirement says "with the better eye". You pass in any event. If you are driving a car, I would consider getting this confirm so you are not required to wear that plus while driving. The purpose of Bates, and my purpose is to get rid of DEPENDENCEY on glasses. That means passing the DMV test -- which you now have done. The next issues is "comfort" while reading. If you can read at computer screen distances, and read books at 20 inches, (which I think you can do) then there is no reason to be wearing a plus lens -- at all. (Unless you want to.) In your work life, if on computers 8 hours a day -- just that fact will reduce your "farsightedness" -- although slowly. So I would recommend NOT wearing that plus -- for all distance activity. And if you can do it -- not for near either. If you need "comfort" while reading, I would just buy some +1 to +1.25 diopters off the rack. And always, I think Bates would be of considerable value to you. What do you think of this approach? Best, Otis Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - Farsighted - 08-25-2007 Thanks for your message Otis. As previously mentioned, I did buy some distance glasses. You say try not using any plus but if I don't wear a prescription on my right eye it turns in straight away. Would a low minus lens help in any way as it appeared to work for 'Bifocal' or is his case different to mine? Or if I just wore a contact lens on one eye to make the lazy eye work - what prescription would I need to balance the eyes and which eye do I put the contact in? What do you think? Thanks. Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - otis - 08-25-2007 Dear Farsighted, There is a "phoria" where an eye will turn in or turn out. It is not clear exactly what you men by "turn it". It this a "sometimes" thing, or does it always turn. It is noticible? Did your parents remark about it? Did you have an operation for it? Do you have fusion -- see things with both eyes. I know it is hard to discuss this issue -- but I have had "eye-turn" -- and resultant "traning" and operation. I know that typically a "plus" is prescribed for eye-turn. But if you can control your eye-turn (with vision-training) you might be able to get along with out the plus. Otis Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - Farsighted - 08-26-2007 Hi Otis, Thanks for your prompt responses. My right eye turns in to my nose when my sight is uncorrected for a length of time or when I am tired. When i was young I had to wear a patch but didn't and my eyes straightened out themselves (without patch or glasses) but when I was in high school, my eye started to turn in again and that is when I decided to get contacts. If I ordered 0.50 minus lenses as Bifocal mentioned in this forum, do you think my plus prescription might reduce? Thanks. Re: Farsighted and want to get rid of glasses - otis - 08-26-2007 Dear Farsighted. You have two SEPARATE issues. 1. Eye turn (that I had) One eye would "drift" out when I was tired, or not paying attention. And the other, 2. Is that you are wearing a mild plus lens (that was given to you because your eye "turned in" when you were tired. I know that EACH of us unique, so what I say -- might not apply to you. I was given Bates of eye-training. In my opinion, that saved my eyes. I now control my eye-turn AT WILL. I can "fuse" when I wish, and let either eye "go", by intention, or just getting tired. I have my own opinion about WHY I developed this situation (as a 4, 5, and 6 years-old child). So for your eye turn I would recommend Bates methods -- and I think may behavioral ODs would make the same recommendation -- if you wish to ask. It is intensive and frustrating. For your wearing of that mind plus -- I simply would stop doing it. I think Bates was correct about this issue for you. Just don't do it. But that again must be your decision. If it were me, and I could verify 20/40 or better for distance -- then I would NOT wear that plus lens. I would go pass the DMV (at 20/40), and get any restrictions removed from my license. Just my second-opinion. Best, Otis |