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Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

contd I got a strong feeling that was telling me: F**k Off! This Will Not Work. Sorry for the coarse language. Anyway that made me to tell it straight. I'd thought: will I mention the fairy talking? T...

sean

Bates Method

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10-20-2010, 08:20 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

contd. The other main reason was that in the looking at a point thread Dave says that there is imagination involved (Bates looking at the cave picture) so I thought, I'll show that THIS is how I imagi...

sean

Bates Method

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10-20-2010, 08:29 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

contd sorry to blather on. Andrea: Thanks for your feedback, that is most interesting. Hammer: Your first two lines (you should see some sort of a reality shadow) is what I was always thinking. I'm ...

sean

Bates Method

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10-20-2010, 08:41 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

Pikachu Back from stream of unconsciousness mode! I know I've seen Bates refer to imagination with the eyes open on several occasions. Mind you, I went ahead with this on my own initiative and saw th...

sean

Bates Method

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10-21-2010, 08:41 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

because I was very tired and yet yesterday I said to myself, to hell with the imagination chore, I'll just look out the window, and hey presto the sign cleared up completely. It frustratingly muddled ...

sean

Bates Method

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10-21-2010, 08:49 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

Hi hammer I found the fairy too complicated at first so I had to get rid of the wings. I think I assembled her as a kind of Frankenstein's monster, presumably from images of stuff I remembered having...

sean

Bates Method

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10-22-2010, 05:01 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

Pikachu First sentence: yes you're right, I think I mixed them up. And you're also right about just helping for a short time. I find it a handy booster say when I'm watching football on tv and I can'...

sean

Bates Method

23,301

10-22-2010, 05:19 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

I can't remember with the Snellen exercise, but with 'imagining a fairy while my eyes are resting over a blurry sign' exercise before a full 20/20 clear flash comes you'd get the discomfort and the st...

sean

Bates Method

23,301

10-22-2010, 05:31 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

Hey Pikachu When I say 'manipulate', I mean trying to force the blur into the desired shape. I think Dave's looking at detail is a way of interpreting the blur, of using the imagination. I'm not all ...

sean

Bates Method

23,301

10-22-2010, 05:45 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

Hammer Yes, I often think the same, that the imagination exercise is a good way to see how relaxed you are, or more, a way of guiding yourself to relaxation, because in my case it isn't that easy alw...

sean

Bates Method

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11-05-2010, 08:13 AM

Thread: Focus your mind, not your eyes
Post: Re: Focus your mind, not your eyes

I think my last post is saying much the same as Deliverance above. Try and keep it up over the weekend, Deliverance, and I'll sdo the same and we can compare notes next week.

sean

David's Old Blog Posts

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01-04-2013, 10:35 AM

Thread: Focus your mind, not your eyes
Post: Re: Focus your mind, not your eyes

Another excellent post, this is the closest yet to describing how I see it. It makes sense. Has anyone else here said to themselves: Right, that's how I insist on seeing from now on, one point at at ...

sean

David's Old Blog Posts

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01-04-2013, 10:32 AM

Thread: Finally!
Post: Re: Finally!

Hi David This is a really excellent explanation. First, a typo on p4 of The Method: "but you'll hang on to ceratin aspects of widened attention state" The case you make seems indestructible. I've r...

sean

David's Old Blog Posts

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09-17-2012, 06:26 AM

Thread: Relaxing the eyes and avoiding the issue
Post: Re: Relaxing the eyes and avoiding the issue

I find the habit of trying to see more than one point at a time is so ingrained that I catch myself doing it even when consciously practising searching for detail. Why is this not working? Because I'm...

sean

David's Old Blog Posts

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06-21-2011, 07:03 AM

Thread: Difficulty with the Bates method
Post: Re: Difficulty with the Bates method

Andrea Good post. The last bit, where you talk about imagining someone who can't imagine black etc, got me thinking a little. And really we can do it, and perfectly too, it's just that we aren't used...

sean

Bates Method

19,887

09-09-2010, 08:33 AM

Thread: Difficulty with the Bates method
Post: Re: Difficulty with the Bates method

Here's the link to what I was just saying: <a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.iblindness.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=856&hilit=mindfulness">viewtopic.php?f...

sean

Bates Method

19,887

09-09-2010, 08:42 AM

Thread: Difficulty with the Bates method
Post: Re: Difficulty with the Bates method

Here's the link to what I was just saying: <a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.iblindness.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=856&hilit=mindfulness">viewtopic.php?f...

sean

Bates Method

19,887

09-09-2010, 08:42 AM

Thread: Difficulty with the Bates method
Post: Re: Difficulty with the Bates method

Andreas, good point about the guilt. My son is 9 years old and I worry about him following in my visual footsteps. One way I try to counter this is to let him know often that school is not worth bothe...

sean

Bates Method

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08-31-2010, 04:27 AM

Thread: Hi! Mind if I introduce myself here?
Post: Re: Hi! Mind if I introduce myself here?

Hi Sunlight456 Read Bates' book which is available for free on this website. Perhaps skip the first and last couple of chapters or so for the moment. You will see other material mentioned on this for...

sean

Off Topic

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08-19-2010, 09:14 AM

Thread: Hi! Mind if I introduce myself here?
Post: Re: Hi! Mind if I introduce myself here?

Sunlight Yes, I should give an account of the open-eye imagination as I practise it and I've been thinking of doing that for a good while now. I don't really do much else, just relax my eyes whenever...

sean

Off Topic

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08-20-2010, 04:46 AM

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