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Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Well, Jay did seem to imply that he doesn't have easy access to a computer right now - or so I thought. Anyway Varangian, you have been wary because you thought it may be a scam. Now you know that Ja...

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09-09-2008, 06:41 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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So Jay, is there no sign of improvement at all ?

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08-24-2008, 04:32 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Thanks Jay. I think my daughter will be getting regular contacts soon so she will have some experience by the time we get round to trying ortho-c (if I can get approval from the wife). Let us know ho...

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08-19-2008, 07:59 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Jay, I am trying to understand your references to -3.5 and -4 etc. I figure you are talking about contact lenses and the numbers are the diopter (strength) measure ? I would like to better understand ...

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08-03-2008, 05:43 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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It certainly sounds like it has the potential to be big. You mention a key word: "mainstream". I think that for it to become a mainstream therapy it would have to be tried and tested by authorities li...

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07-27-2008, 05:54 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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I do not know anything about the severity of Hilda's myopia prior to treatment. She did make a statement about how the degree of improvement attainable is proportional to the extent of myopia: The wor...

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07-26-2008, 04:45 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Also... Here's something that I think is both interesting and encouraging. I just got this from Hilda in response to a question (and this seems somewhat relevant to your question about the weaker glas...

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07-25-2008, 04:21 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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I think the thing about the weaker glasses is consistent with some of the things he says in his book. The idea is that the contacts will quickly reverse some of the myopia, after which it would not ma...

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07-25-2008, 06:40 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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That's all pretty interesting. Looks like itsme has explained the price related question. In my opinion the more important question is the one that comes up regarding the people who he says are atte...

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07-24-2008, 09:58 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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You're right itsme, I should be more patient with this. Jay really does provide substantial detail in his posts. I guess I was just wondering if he had abondoned this thing, but you're probably right ...

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07-23-2008, 12:34 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Right - I wonder about that. So I guess you have been sending emails to John and he just hasn't replied ? ...Message to "itsme": I have and old version of the book which does not include testimonials...

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07-23-2008, 09:05 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Varangian, it seems the task of getting John's attention is a matter of luck and perseverance. You have to believe he will respond at some point, but it seems he doesn't really treat this as a commer...

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07-21-2008, 11:36 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Things have gone a little quiet here. Is everyone still going ahead with their plans ? How about you jay - are you going ahead with it ?

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07-21-2008, 06:06 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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Well done jay - good to hear you're talking to the man. Don't let your guard down, though. Critical thinking is the key.

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07-15-2008, 12:24 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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jay, I think that your choice (getting the contacts from John) is the right one. He's the brain behind the whole thing anyway, and you would not have known if your optometrist was really ordering the ...

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07-12-2008, 08:54 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy update...
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jay, I am impressed with your analysis. I hope this all goes according to plan. As itsme has pointed out it would probably be a good idea to try and maintain a line of communication with John. Also, ...

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07-12-2008, 04:10 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy (Ortho C)
Post: Re: Orthoculogy (Ortho C)

Message for Otis: If you have endorsed John's ortho-c system I assume that means that you have some reason to believe that it is effective. Can you please tell us what you know (and I am sorry if I a...

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07-07-2008, 05:37 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy (Ortho C)
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Varangian's experience of communicating with John has been exactly consistent with mine. I think you have to assume that if you can get your questions answered in your first email then you're good, ot...

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07-07-2008, 06:31 AM

Thread: Orthoculogy (Ortho C)
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itsme, thank you for your sensible reply. You did correctly understand my question and your reply is entirely rational. The thing is that I am concerned not only with the process of inserting and remo...

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07-06-2008, 12:03 PM

Thread: Orthoculogy (Ortho C)
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itsme, I am sorry to read about the condition. I have to admit I am ignorant about this, but I hope you are able to overcome it. About the testimonials... Have you contacted any of the individuals li...

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07-06-2008, 09:15 AM

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