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Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

Thanks, David! I have a few questions: When I'm looking for details, is it normal for what I am looking at to move around, sort of like it's "floating"? When this happens, I find it more difficult to...

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11-03-2010, 04:11 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@sean: I think that the detail-searching is something that people with normal vision do on their own, so I guess it's all about establishing a good habit. When I do this detail-searching thing, I so...

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11-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Thread: My Way on N.V.I and Bates' Method
Post: Re: My Way on N.V.I and Bates' Method

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm starting to gain awareness of strain. It's quite difficult, but I like to tell myself that it doesn't matter whether I can see or not. One thing I've noticed though i...

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Bates Method

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11-01-2010, 05:31 PM

Thread: My Vision Journal
Post: Re: My Vision Journal

Been a while... I think I've learned a bit more about myself :) 1. It turns out that I've been trying too hard to see things that I can't see. That strains my eyes, which in turn makes it harder to s...

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11-01-2010, 05:26 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@Nancy: Yeah, it's sort of like that. When I'm doing it right (or when I think I'm doing it right!), I feel outside that point is unimportant and sort of "forget" that they're there. I haven't had muc...

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10-23-2010, 04:56 PM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

@sean: I get what you're talking about. That's the reason why I gave up my previous shifting exercise; I was kind of trying to force it to be clearer, whether consciously or not. Sometimes, I notice t...

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Bates Method

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10-23-2010, 10:41 AM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@David: Thanks. I guess I'm on the right track then :). What I mean by it being more difficult at a distance is that first of all, the blur is, well, blurrier and even when I tell myself to focus on i...

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10-23-2010, 10:16 AM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

@sean: Are you referring to the "finding details" thread started by David when you talk about "focusing on a point"? At the risk of sounding uninformed, I'll honestly admit that I thought the two were...

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Bates Method

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10-21-2010, 05:00 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@David: I think I have pretty severe myopia, and I find that it's a little difficult to find details that are further off. At the moment, I just let the "blur" remain as it is and try to find details ...

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10-21-2010, 04:41 PM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

@sean: That's good. Just make sure it's only slight discomfort and not pain. I know where you're coming from since I have a sort of discomfort after doing certain exercises, but I know for example, th...

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Bates Method

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10-20-2010, 04:40 PM

Thread: Imagination
Post: Re: Imagination

It DOES sound kind of ridiculous... However, if it helps, it helps... I just wanted to give my feedback on one point mentioned: about how discomfort is felt when you can see clearly. I too have expe...

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Bates Method

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10-18-2010, 05:30 PM

Thread: Near point stress
Post: Re: Near point stress

That's actually an interesting question. What I'm unsure about is whether there is such a thing as "far point strain". I actually don't understand much at all about farsightedness, but if I recall, th...

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Bates Method

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10-18-2010, 05:19 PM

Thread: Re-start
Post: Re: Re-start

@JWLBOYCE: Is the blur at the periphery of your visual field? If it is, it's very possible that what you're seeing is much closer to your "natural" vision. I believe that normal vision usually means a...

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10-18-2010, 05:12 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

At least for me, that effect is rather difficult to achieve. I've also had this problem where even the center that of my visual field is blurry as well as the periphery. I'm not completely sure where ...

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10-18-2010, 05:07 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@JMartinC4: Very true. It is more than likely that the Bates method can be further improved, but you have to admit: It already works very well for those who are dedicated enough to follow it. @Nancy:...

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10-17-2010, 04:19 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@hammer: Nice quotes! :) By the way, I think you might be taking the analogies a bit...too far. They're analogies in the sense that they're related, but they don't have to be similar in every aspect....

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10-16-2010, 06:36 PM

Thread: Re-start
Post: Re: Re-start

Lol, tedium works for some people, I guess. :D

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Bates Method

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10-16-2010, 06:29 PM

Thread: My Vision Journal
Post: Re: My Vision Journal

@Nancy: I see what you're getting at. I guess I don't have enough experience to answer all of my questions yet. Still, I think it helps when I ask myself questions and question things I believe in. Th...

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Bates Method

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10-16-2010, 06:28 PM

Thread: My Vision Journal
Post: Re: My Vision Journal

1. Got back to swinging. I love it :D ! I just need to find the time to do it on a daily basis. I don't know how much it's helping my vision, but it certainly reduces stress and sort of "clears my min...

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10-15-2010, 04:47 PM

Thread: notes on looking at details and changing
Post: Re: notes on looking at details and changing

@hammer: ??? I'm sorry but I didn't completely understand your comment. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? @sean: I have to totally agree with you there. It seems that most human beings are bo...

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10-15-2010, 04:41 PM

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