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Thread: Imagining black dot?
Post: Re: Imagining black dot?

Well done, Kazekage. I like the way you said it "just enter it in your mind". It has become my fresh mantra for the recent couple of days. It is a pleasure to remember that all I have to do is just to...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

8,991

09-11-2007, 10:15 AM

Thread: Imagining black dot?
Post: Re: Imagining black dot?

I wasn't saying that relaxation isn't important. It IS important but one shouldn't think about it in the way you mentioned: "just try to relax your eyes while thinking of a perfectly black dot on a pe...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

8,991

09-11-2007, 08:59 PM

Thread: Yahoo Groups
Post: Re: Yahoo Groups

LOL :) This Yahoo group is my favorite. It is not a usual group. Those guys are real Bates purists, and I guess they became like that after countless debates with countless people in various groups. T...

Oleg K.

Off Topic

20,995

09-16-2007, 01:26 PM

Thread: Dodging Your Eyesight
Post: Dodging Your Eyesight

I'd like to share my recent thoughts about how to make the habit of relaxed vision permanent. I've written a blog post about it titled "Dodging Your Eyesight": <a class="postlink" h...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

7,930

09-18-2007, 08:16 AM

Thread: Bates Method Ain't Mechanical
Post: Bates Method Ain't Mechanical

I think it is important to explicitly stop supporting strain even before you start doing other Bates things, such as swinging, shifting, looking with central fixation etc., or otherwise doing them mec...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

3,037

10-07-2007, 12:35 AM

Thread: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation
Post: Re: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation

The both options you consider are wrong. You should not try to see the letter on the back side of your eyelids. If you "try to see" anything, you draw even more attention to the eyes, which is the ma...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

10,451

10-09-2007, 05:03 AM

Thread: Some of my progress and a few questions.
Post: Re: Some of my progress and a few questions.

Mike82 Wrote:Oh, and one more thing I noticed. When I first started practicing the bates method, I didn't have much progress. I then realized, that I was only using the correct habits when I was out ...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

7,019

10-09-2007, 05:06 AM

Thread: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation
Post: Re: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation

I don't understand why I have saddened you. In fact, I intended to encourage you by telling that you don't have improvement NOT because Bates method doesn't work for you as you might be suspecting, bu...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

10,451

10-10-2007, 12:59 AM

Thread: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation
Post: Re: Visualising with eyes closed & relaxation

You mentioned Quackenbush, but I think you haven't read the ORIGINAL Bates book. This is a MUST that you have to read it. Do it once, then one more time and one more time and so on periodically from t...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

10,451

10-10-2007, 02:10 AM

Thread: Pattern of Progress
Post: Pattern of Progress

I'd like to ask Dave and others who have (or almost have) cured their eyesight. Could you please share your experience about the period of transition from the state when "my vision is mostly poor wi...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

4,698

10-17-2007, 06:10 AM

Thread: Pattern of Progress
Post: Re: Pattern of Progress

I think I understand what you mean (and I'm a programmer too :) ). It happens that I am coming to understand the same thing myself. I also find that if I am long enough in this state of the mind, my v...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

4,698

10-18-2007, 02:49 AM

Thread: The Treatment Is Very Simple
Post: The Treatment Is Very Simple

Rishi wrote: "The treatment is VERY SIMPLE. Just remove glasses, suffer the inconvenience at first, then strive to remember things moving, again and again when you forget, you just remember, everythi...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

2,941

11-29-2007, 07:10 AM

Thread: Relax your eyes - or eyelids?
Post: Re: Relax your eyes - or eyelids?

For me, relaxing the facial and eyelid muscles is the first step in relaxation (although I think the connection is not direct and people with normal sight may be able to strain their facial muscles wi...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

4,100

11-30-2007, 12:36 AM

Thread: Pressure behind the eyes
Post: Re: Pressure behind the eyes

optifog, this is happening because the first time you looked at Snellen without caring about the clear flash, and now you do care and think you have already won to see things clearer and that causes y...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

16,597

12-02-2007, 09:57 PM

Thread: Pressure behind the eyes
Post: Re: Pressure behind the eyes

In my own experience, all physical sensations you can feel come out of strain or are illusions of strain. When your mind is at rest, you don't feel anything, and your eyesight just works normally. Whe...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

16,597

12-03-2007, 10:59 AM

Thread: Looking at lightings?
Post: Re: Looking at lightings?

Jason, also try to read microprint (like the one found on page 195 of the original Bates book) after looking at bright light. It is surprisingly efficient.

Oleg K.

Bates Method

6,960

12-30-2007, 01:01 PM

Thread: Strain accompanied by cure?
Post: Re: Strain accompanied by cure?

The pain and any sensations are not reliable. Quote:The sensations of the eye and of the mind supply very little information as to the strain to which both are being subjected, those who strain most ...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

12,782

01-22-2008, 11:30 PM

Thread: Strain accompanied by cure?
Post: Re: Strain accompanied by cure?

Dave, it's curious whether you are capable of remembering a black dot for a long enough duration of time?

Oleg K.

Bates Method

12,782

01-24-2008, 12:06 AM

Thread: Strain accompanied by cure?
Post: Re: Strain accompanied by cure?

I have had experiences of remembering black perfectly when I palm, but unfortunately not every day and not longer than a couple of seconds. Sometimes I have only a foretaste of perfect black. I am ama...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

12,782

01-24-2008, 11:42 PM

Thread: Central fixation and being aware of peripheral vision
Post: Re: Central fixation and being aware of peripheral...

Indeed, I find that being aware of the peripheral vision is somewhat relaxing. It can be a good starting point for deeper grades of relaxation. Of course it is NOT eccentric fixation (although what y...

Oleg K.

Bates Method

4,280

01-28-2008, 12:55 AM

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