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Thread: palming drains your energy ??
Post: Re: palming drains your energy ??

Yes it might drain energy. I have gone from feeling fine to wanting to lay down or just close my eyes.

Whohlme

Bates Method

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10-30-2009, 08:36 AM

Thread: "he attained 30-10 vision, which is three times better than
Post: Re: "he attained 30-10 vision, which is three time...

good to see someone correcting wrong views. After I read it, this whole article seemed wrong. Although 40-10 and 30-10 seem awesome, they pretty much are not Bates method at all in this article. It se...

Whohlme

Bates Method

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10-28-2009, 07:45 PM

Thread: things you still can't see?
Post: Re: things you still can't see?

Is there a way to see this for myself? Perhaps objective tests or something? (eg, depth perception, color?)

Whohlme

Bates Method

9,984

07-15-2009, 10:26 AM

Thread: things you still can't see?
Post: Re: things you still can't see?

Somehow I don't see how going from static good sight with glasses to unstable maybe-good-maybe-bad sight is exciting and beneficial. To me, unless the Bates method equals or surpasses glasses, it's no...

Whohlme

Bates Method

9,984

07-14-2009, 01:09 PM

Thread: things you still can't see?
Post: things you still can't see?

This is mainly addressed to people with perfect or near perfect sight. Say you've practiced the Bates method to its limits and have the best sight possible. Are there times where it is still hard to s...

Whohlme

Bates Method

9,984

06-22-2009, 01:08 PM

Thread: ''instantly-improved eyesight after drinking camu camu.''
Post: Re: ''instantly-improved eyesight after drinking c...

Interestingly, I find the same thing you do to be true. I think diet has almost nothing to do with eyesight, from personal experience as well as observation of others. This to me is encouraging though...

Whohlme

Bates Method

4,790

02-05-2009, 10:36 PM

Thread: Nutrition should part of the Btes Method, not separate
Post: Re: Nutrition should part of the Btes Method, not ...

In addition, I have known people who eat pretty horrible diets but still have great eyesight. It may be that certain foods lead one to strain, but in the end it all comes down to strain. From my exper...

Whohlme

Complementary Methods

13,011

02-04-2009, 09:25 PM

Thread: Nutrition should part of the Btes Method, not separate
Post: Re: Nutrition should part of the Btes Method, not ...

Interestingly, I find Bates surprisingly unholistic in some ways. For example, this may be getting into some of the more esoteric stuff, but Bates said that when the vision is normal, no pain is felt,...

Whohlme

Complementary Methods

13,011

02-03-2009, 11:21 PM

Thread: Straining while asleep
Post: Re: Straining while asleep

Bates found in his research that people with normal sight produce errors of refraction while sleeping and those with imperfect sight increase their refractive errors during sleep. In other words, slee...

Whohlme

Bates Method

19,177

07-08-2008, 09:42 PM

Thread: avoiding spyware, viruses
Post: Re: avoiding spyware, viruses

Yes, if you're going to use M$ window$ anyways, the best browser is Firefox. I would recommend looking into the "Linux" operating system, which is free of cost and free of problems such as spy...

Whohlme

Off Topic

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07-08-2008, 09:16 PM

Thread: SO MUCH INFO!
Post: Re: SO MUCH INFO!

the problem is that i do want to read it, in a way, because it's just plain interesting. Even if it is not truth. I want to be able to turn from it, to make myself not want to read it somehow because ...

Whohlme

Bates Method

11,193

05-31-2008, 04:38 PM

Thread: SO MUCH INFO!
Post: Re: SO MUCH INFO!

Dave, I have found what you said to be true. For example, most of the youtube videos have nothing to do with actually fixing the problem, they only give interesting (and probably wrong) ideas and the...

Whohlme

Bates Method

11,193

05-31-2008, 10:01 AM

Thread: SO MUCH INFO!
Post: Re: SO MUCH INFO!

Wow this helps a lot. Thank you. So for sure you would say the Bates book as well as all related materials (magazines, etc.) are grains of truth, right? I guess I feel the need to be thorough which in...

Whohlme

Bates Method

11,193

05-29-2008, 06:05 AM

Thread: SO MUCH INFO!
Post: SO MUCH INFO!

This has become problematic for me; there is just SO MUCH out there on the Net, books, YouTube videos, elsewhere. I feel the need to just read it all but something tells me i shouldn't. It seems weird...

Whohlme

Bates Method

11,193

05-28-2008, 08:27 PM

Thread: Farewell
Post: Re: Farewell

Ok guys and girls, this is it. I have accumulated the online texts and ordered all the books and most importantly, gathered my strength and resolved to relearn to see. This is not farewell forever, ju...

Whohlme

Bates Method

13,060

04-12-2008, 10:15 PM

Thread: Geek solution!
Post: Re: Geek solution!

I will not be doing the magazines at this time as it would just be too time consuming and I already have the book form. Besides, in no time I will be able to read them visually in the sunlight :) I'll...

Whohlme

Bates Method

27,081

04-12-2008, 03:34 PM

Thread: Geek solution!
Post: Re: Geek solution!

Ok cool. I ordered a paperback copy of the original book from amazon. I also got the following texts from the web and am making them into audio: Perfect Sight Without Glasses, Use Your Own Eyes, St...

Whohlme

Bates Method

27,081

04-12-2008, 12:24 PM

Thread: Geek solution!
Post: Re: Geek solution!

Just wondering: there seem to actually be a lot of online free versions of the original book. Does anyone know which one is the best, comparatively?

Whohlme

Bates Method

27,081

04-11-2008, 03:59 PM

Thread: Palming noise reduction
Post: Re: Palming noise reduction

Even Bates was incredulous when the almost 70 year old man told him he palmed for twenty. If you don't understand how I could've done it then maybe you are not motivated enough. For me it was but a fe...

Whohlme

Bates Method

9,934

04-10-2008, 02:38 PM

Thread: Palming noise reduction
Post: Re: Palming noise reduction

Yes, I palmed for 15 hours. I was aiming for 24 but it was my first epic session and I had to take two naps. Yes, I do believe the Bates method improves all senses as it relaxes the mind, which involv...

Whohlme

Bates Method

9,934

04-10-2008, 06:38 AM

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