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Thread: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?
Post: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?

I am a high myope (20/400) and have been experimenting with some of Dr Bates' methods described in his book. He often refers to seeing worse when practising some of the methods, such as shifting with...

bkowalski

Bates Method

13,763

11-23-2006, 08:45 AM

Thread: Re: Wow this is amazing, finally I can get some fresh air
Post: Re: Wow this is amazing, finally I can get some fr...

Good to hear. I have been experimenting with breath work, reading all kinds of books and internet info, and using it. Many times I am having trouble using my nose as well, so it's good to hear that ...

bkowalski

Bates Method

5,302

11-28-2006, 12:26 PM

Thread: Wow - where to start?
Post: Re: Wow - where to start?

I have two children, the younger one in glasses for myopia (11 years old). The older girl (14 years old) went through two periods of about two months each with reduced vision. It eventually returned...

bkowalski

Bates Method

9,204

08-19-2009, 12:02 PM

Thread: Wonderful LASIK, is it?
Post: Re: Wonderful LASIK, is it?

A close friend of mine seemed excited in the few months to a year after the surgery, but does not openly talk about it anymore. His brother has worse eyesight than he did, but has not yet signed up f...

bkowalski

Complementary Methods

9,003

02-13-2007, 10:47 AM

Thread: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?
Post: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?

Thanks Oleg and Dave, the recent posts have helped me get a feeling of what I'm looking for in this respect. However, I am not really getting anywhere with practice yet. Because my near point is abo...

bkowalski

Bates Method

13,763

12-13-2006, 01:16 PM

Thread: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?
Post: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?

I finally got another clear flash. I was sitting normally in a vehicle while parked, and I observed the odometer reading. I tried out something that I read in Meir Schneider's book, and the digits cl...

bkowalski

Bates Method

13,763

02-06-2007, 03:05 PM

Thread: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?
Post: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?

Dave K Wrote:Look at an object in front of you and hold your finger out to your right side. Hold your finger so far to your right periphery that you are able to tell that it's there, but if you didn'...

bkowalski

Bates Method

13,763

11-24-2006, 11:50 AM

Thread: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?
Post: Re: What does Bates mean by seeing worse?

Thanks Dave, I've learned a lot in this discussion - I've got to try to relax more about improving. I had a clear flash (about 2 weeks ago) about 3 weeks after starting Bates stuff, with some permanen...

bkowalski

Bates Method

13,763

11-27-2006, 07:47 AM

Thread: Weird Sensations
Post: Re: Weird Sensations

Otter, your comment indicates that you are looking for a quick fix, as is the influence of the western culture. The Bates Method is a slow process towards better overall health, and I am enjoying the...

bkowalski

Bates Method

10,735

08-14-2007, 09:20 AM

Thread: Using NLP with Bates
Post: Re: Using NLP with Bates

Thanks for starting this thread - I was about to ask the same question. I got interested lately in Leo Angart who applies NLP and meditation in his workshops. I saw some discussion on this in the Ba...

bkowalski

Bates Method

3,697

11-28-2006, 12:23 PM

Thread: Re: undercorrecting
Post: Re: undercorrecting

A couple comments: first, contact lenses are the worst corrective lenses. Second, you can try this, but it's not Bates. There are some who have had success using undercorrected glasses (not contacts...

bkowalski

Complementary Methods

4,983

03-13-2007, 12:24 PM

Thread: The Relation Between Ajna chakra and Central Fixation
Post: Re: The Relation Between Ajna chakra and Central F...

This sounds very interesting, thanks for posting.

bkowalski

Bates Method

6,094

11-08-2006, 08:47 AM

Thread: The Bates method making my eyes worsen
Post: Re: The Bates method making my eyes worsen

Are you wearing any corrective lenses at this time?

bkowalski

Complementary Methods

5,563

03-13-2007, 12:11 PM

Thread: The Bates method is simple
Post: Re: The Bates method is simple

I just want to add that I was at first skeptical about using reduced prescriptions, but after my experience this week, and for my situation, it seems to work. I started out by not wearing my glasse...

bkowalski

Bates Method

8,463

05-25-2007, 11:00 AM

Thread: Swinging?
Post: Re: Swinging?

Dave has given you the appropriate link and his description there is good. After trying that, if you have more specific questions, do post here again. The key point is that THE SWING IS AN ILLUSIO...

bkowalski

Bates Method

5,965

05-25-2007, 10:44 AM

Thread: Swinging
Post: Re: Swinging

Clear flashes don't always come during one activity, it may take a long time. It took me over two weeks practicing several different activities and incorporating good vision habits into daily life bef...

bkowalski

Bates Method

4,938

05-31-2007, 03:30 PM

Thread: Some noticeable improvements! What works for me.
Post: Re: Some noticeable improvements! What works for ...

Hey Noah, thanks for posting. I'm about 20/230, and I find it very difficult to go without glasses, but I do it most of the time. Do you work at the computer without glasses? I just wanted to pas...

bkowalski

Bates Method

18,665

01-30-2007, 07:27 AM

Thread: Some noticeable improvements! What works for me.
Post: Re: Some noticeable improvements! What works for ...

I think spock presents a convincing viewpoint, and Oleg, I admire your passion, and I do believe that discarding glasses increases a person's chances by 10, 100, maybe 1000 times of regaining their na...

bkowalski

Bates Method

18,665

02-07-2007, 04:38 PM

Thread: Some noticeable improvements! What works for me.
Post: Re: Some noticeable improvements! What works for ...

Oleg K, I agree that's it's very much psychological for a high myope, and that's why I'm working towards overall health and not just vision, which includes studying and starting to practice some of th...

bkowalski

Bates Method

18,665

02-08-2007, 07:48 AM

Thread: Snellen
Post: Re: Snellen

Excellent post Dave, thanks, much appreciated. I look forward to practising this over the holdiays!

bkowalski

Bates Method

10,367

12-18-2006, 09:54 AM

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